Posted on 05/23/2015 6:28:43 AM PDT by rickmichaels
Roses aren't red and violets aren't blue.
At least that's the premise of a new book, 'Outside Color', which puts forward the debate that colour is, in fact, an illusion.
Author Dr Mazviita Chirimuuta uses the book to explore the historical debates that suggest colour doesn't exist - at least not in the literal sense.
Light, however, does exist, and it's the mind that transforms that light into colour.
'Of all the properties that objects appear to have,'writes the University of Pittsburgh professor, 'colour hovers uneasily between the subjective world of sensation and the objective world of fact.'
Optical illusions, such as the blue and black dress that went viral this year, show how objects have colours that observers perceive differently.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Yeah, like gender. /s
Not just our senses, but every physical construct short of neutron star density. What we experience is the Pauli exclusion principle, roughly (but incorrectly) stated as no two electrons may occupy the same state. It's not the atoms repelling, it's electrons preventing atoms from merging.
Are you gonna believe this guy or your own lying eyes?
Read a book one time, it may have been "In Search of Schrodinger's Cat", that asked does the universe exist if there is no one to observe it. Sentient beings may, by observing, collapse the probabilities, and instantiate the Universe.
What “ancient texts” are you referring to? The ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Hebrews, Persians, and Indians all had words for blue.
Color is not in our minds in any sense.From the standpoint of the subject, color is not in or a feature of his perceptual awareness. The physical facts show that color is a relational property of objects, arising from an interaction between them and our visual systems.
Also,colors are not separate objects of awareness, or qualities in inner objects, but aspects of the way external objects appear to us in respect of their reflectance properties.They are thus aspects of the means by which we are directly aware of those properties.
Finally, these reflectance properties could be perceived in different forms,if our perceptual apparatus were different.
What has classical liberalism got to do with the definition of color and its perception?
I really appreciate that you disagreed with me and didn’t launch into a venomous attack on what a dumb idiot I am. That is the only way a few people on this site can think.
Just like gender...
Gladstone and Geiger apparently did not realize that glaucos in Greek, t'khelet in Hebrew, vinlla in Sanskrit, etc. refer to blue.
Generally the older the language the less clearly defined the vocabulary for colors is - but this applies to many categories: number, animals, and so on.
The ancients were able to see the sky as well as we can. They saw the same color we do. As each culture got better at creating blue dyes and paints, a technical vocabulary to describe color distinctions more distinctly developed.
Primitive tribes in South America and Polynesia will often use one word to describe all bright colors - but when asked to differentiate between the various primary and secondary colors through gestures they can do so as well as any Western housepainter.
Of course you are correct. An objective fact - a repeatable and uniform observation.
“Occasionalism”
Interesting, thanks. Read some of this, more later. It seems to be a good way to explain things to a western mind, although free will needs to be considered. That may differentiate Christianity (non-Calvinist) from some of the Islamic philosophy in here.
These academics are always seeking a major communist goal: make people doubt what they think they know, break down the certainty in what people believe in. This is a required foundation for a society to be ruled by totalitarians.
Distinction without a difference ping. Reminds me of the BS, "there's no such thing as hypnosis".
Ummm, it’s ALL only constructs of our minds...
Maybe they had a word for blue but it was sacred and tabblue to talk about it.
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