As far as the GPS... you must not be looking very hard. It was an advertised feature... I even included a link to a PDF file of an ad from the time period in one of my posts. I used the Sprint navigation GPS app that came installed and it worked well, but it was a feature that they charged for and was never cracked by the modding community. It used the GPS system and not triangulation using cell towers. Please take the time to read the following flyer in PDF format:
http://www.sprint.com/dealerrewards/PPC6700SP_flier.pdf
Well I am glad that you have a “nephew” who was on the “inside track” at Apple and you didn't send your hard earned money off to a scammer.
And regardless of your claim that you got data speed that was “quite good” we actually tested it and it was quite bad in our area... typically less than a 56k modem, while the PPC-6700 in the same locations could peak out at up to around 2Mbps but more typically did around 600Kbps to 1.2Mbps. There simply was no comparison. I am sure that there are plenty of people here who have some recollection of the 2G iPhone's pathetic internet speeds. Why do you suppose they upgraded it to 3G? Gee I don't know.
Well congratulations for being “technically skilled, not a fireman, and know far better than do you what I am talking about.” I was actually a leader of the hazmat team and am fairly technically proficient myself, having worked in the computer lab in College and sometimes filling in for professors when they weren't able to make it to a class. When any of the Chiefs or my co-workers needed assistance with a non-network related computer question they often called me instead of someone in the IT department. I was often tasked with projects that generally would not fit with my normal job description.
Despite ample demonstrations of your ignorance in this thread I have never questioned your knowledge of Apple products. You just don't know much of anything about non-Apple products... and you fill in the blanks with your imagination. It feels more than a little pathetic and may make it seem to others that you are more of a poser than an expert.
Who are you trying to fool? That link is for an PPCGeeks > Windows Mobile > WM HTC Devices > HTC Touch Pro, Released on August 4, 2008, which does have a barely working G-sensor. . . your phone is a HTC-PPC6700 from 2005 and not the same phone at all. Come off trying to pull the wool over Freepers' eyes. That's not the first time you've tried that ploy.
And regardless of your claim that you got data speed that was “quite good” we actually tested it and it was quite bad in our area... typically less than a 56k modem, while the PPC-6700 in the same locations could peak out at up to around 2Mbps but more typically did around 600Kbps to 1.2Mbps.
Absolutely AMAZING. . . you exceeded the documented standard speed of 3G. Frankly, Fireman, I don't for one second believe you ever tested the iPhone's transfer speeds or your PPC6700s transfer speeds. The 3G Transfer speeds, especially on the PPC6700 are rated at up 967Mbs, no where near your 1.2Mbs. . .
"EVDO is live in the San Francisco Bay Area and the phone got up to 849 kbit/s in 4 bar reception areas, 524 kbit/s in 2 bar areas and 300 kbit/s in barely 1 bar areas."— Source http://www.mobiletechreview.com/Sprint-PPC-6700.htm"Mobile Tech Review of the Sprint PPC-6700—Reviewed Oct. 7, 2005 by Lisa Gade, Editor in ChiefThat review is pretty typical of reviews of your phone. Not a single one ever reported hitting anything close to the theoretical maximum for the phone of 967Mbs for EVDO, much less your claimed 1.2Mbs.
I READ you stupid advertising flyer, which merely states
"• Application friendly
Load TeleNav GPS navigation and other programs directly on your 6700
I also read the HTC factory specification sheets on your TOY phone. . . and I will believe the manufacturer's specification sheets and also the people who were working on modding your phone who stated categorically that it uses cellular and WIFI signals from Verizon WIFI hotspots because it uses "e911 GPS" and they had "no chance of unlocking what is just NOT THERE" and that "even if there were a silicon GPS chip in the phone it would be worthless because the PPC-6700 did not have any GPS antennas", over your advertising hack's puffery pushing the fact that you can install a piece of software that when you EXAMINE the software's nature you find that it uses only external BlueTooth GPS receivers if you want anything close to usable accuracy. You can keep dancing all you want, but the fact is, Fireman15, that your phone has only e911 GPS which is fake a GPS using software to estimate a location from triangulation of your position from calculating distances by signal delay from Cellular towers and locations of any Verizon WIFI hotspots that may be in the vicinity. THAT by definition is what e911 GPS is! It is nothing more than that. It's sole purpose is to attempt to estimate a cell phone's location for the assistance of a cellular 911 emergency call so that police can attempt to find you! As I said, keep dancing. It is amusing.
That being said, Verizon's implementation of the e911 standard is far better than what e911 location requires, which is that the phone be capable of reporting its location to within 300 meters. Verizon's system which Sprint uses, is accurate within plus or minus ~110 meters. The reason is that Verizon adds the use of WIFI hotspots to the cellular tower triangulations. So sorry you are wrong. . . but you are.
Well congratulations for being “technically skilled, not a fireman, and know far better than do you what I am talking about.” I was actually a leader of the hazmat team and am fairly technically proficient myself, having worked in the computer lab in College and sometimes filling in for professors when they weren't able to make it to a class. When any of the Chiefs or my co-workers needed assistance with a non-network related computer question they often called me instead of someone in the IT department. I was often tasked with projects that generally would not fit with my normal job description.
I have owned a technical business working with computers for over 36 years, fireman. . . and that is far more skilled than your little CV. . . my computer training went back to college course in the late sixties to early 70s and includes programing, diagnoses of computer software and hardware issues, transistor design, IC design, and far more, and also includes networking. I DO know far more than do you, I've probably forgotten more technical knowledge than you know and history of these devices as well. . . and the questioning you have been making on my expertise and knowledge in this thread is basically TWADDLE, I was supporting people with phones like yours back when they were new. . .What you claim is your knowledge of much of this, especially on Apple, based on myth and misrepresentation and lies. YOU prefer to believe the lies and myths. I have sources on everything I post. . . I do not make things up, nor do I lie. . . and I am intimately knowledgeable about what I post. Do I make mistakes? Of course. Everyone does. . . but I double and triple check my sources, just as I have done on your PPC-6700 and your other examples you have been desperately posting on this thread trying to prove the unprovable, going back to primary sources if necessary. I can also recognize fakery when I see it because I am completely familiar with the state of the art as it was through the years.
Your examples of what you call "ignorance" have been shot down, multiple times with links to the actual factual data show that rather than me being ignorant, it is YOU. A good example is your repeated claim that your own phone has a functional GPS inside it. Only you seem to think it does based on advertising HYPE. . . when all technical data, reviews, and even your own modding community says it does not, having instead the ability to do software e911 GPS, a function which can be simulated in any sufficiently fast phone.
Technology[edit]A second phase of Enhanced 911 service is to allow a wireless or mobile telephone to be located.
To locate a mobile telephone geographically, there are two general approaches. One is to use some form of radiolocation from the cellular network; the other is to use a Global Positioning System receiver built into the phone itself. Both approaches are described by the Radio resource location services protocol (LCS protocol).
Radiolocation in cellular telephony uses base stations. Most often, this is done through triangulation between radio towers. The location of the caller or handset can be determined several ways:
Angle of arrival (AOA) requires at least two towers, locating the caller at the point where the lines along the angles from each tower intersect.
Time difference of arrival (TDOA) works like GPS using multilateration, except that it is the networks that determine the time difference and therefore distance from each tower (as with seismometers).
Location signature uses "fingerprinting" to store and recall patterns (such as multipath) which mobile phone signals are known to exhibit at different locations in each cell.
The first two depend on a line of sight, which can be difficult or impossible in mountainous terrain or around skyscrapers. Location signatures actually work better in these conditions however. TDMA and GSM networks such as T-Mobile 2G use TDOA.[8] AT&T Mobility initially advocated TDOA, but changed to embedded GPS in 2006 for every GSM or UMTS voice-capable device due to improved accuracy.
Code division multiple access (CDMA) networks tend to use handset-based radiolocation technologies, which are technically more similar to radionavigation. GPS is one of those technologies. Alltel, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile 3G, and Sprint PCS use Assisted GPS.[8]
This information confirms what I described to you how your phones e911 system works. . . It is NOT a Geopositioning Satellite System. . . If anything it's a Geopositioning TOWER System.
I respect your work as a fireman and a hazmat specialist. . . and you couldn't get me to do that. You'd have to rescue my ass if I tried it. But fireman15, you are the dilettante in MY field here. . . the hobbyist trying to tell the expert how to do his job. . . and you are working from a defective data set. I would be just as much at sea trying to tell you how to clean up a hazardous waste mess.
Most of the stuff I have been telling you I have at the tip of my fingers. . . but I have double checked everything I have posted. . . and provided links. You tell me something like your phone has GPS and a motion sensor, and then provide false proofs, expect to be handed your head. . . because it is false to fact and I know that it is.