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College Student to Jeb Bush: 'Your Brother Created ISIS'
ny times ^ | 5-14-2015 | Michael Barbaro

Posted on 05/14/2015 5:20:02 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

RENO, Nev. — “Your brother created ISIS,” the young woman told Jeb Bush. And with that, Ivy Ziedrich, a 19-year-old college student, created the kind of confrontational moment here on Wednesday morning that presidential candidates dread.

Mr. Bush, the former governor of Florida, had just concluded a town-hall-style meeting when Ms. Ziedrich demanded to be heard. “Governor Bush,” she shouted as audience members asked him for his autograph. “Would you take a student question?”

Mr. Bush whirled around and looked at Ms. Ziedrich, who identified herself as a political science major and a college Democrat at the University of Nevada.

She had heard Mr. Bush argue, a few moments before, that America’s retreat from the Middle East under President Obama had contributed to the growing power of the Islamic State. She told the former governor that he was wrong, and made the case that blame lay with the decision by the administration of his brother George W. Bush to disband the Iraqi Army.

“It was when 30,000 individuals who were part of the Iraqi military were forced out — they had no employment, they had no income, and they were left with access to all of the same arms and weapons,” Ms. Ziedrich said.

She added: “Your brother created ISIS.”

Mr. Bush interjected. “All right. Is that a question?”

Ms. Ziedrich was not finished. “You don’t need to be pedantic to me, sir.”

“Pedantic? Wow,” Mr. Bush replied.

Then Ms. Ziedrich asked: “Why are you saying that ISIS was created by us not having a presence in the Middle East when it’s pointless wars where we send young American men to die for the idea of American exceptionalism? Why are you spouting nationalist rhetoric to get us involved in more wars?”

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I wonder if she was a hottie? Oh, Ms. Ziedrich is a Democrat.
1 posted on 05/14/2015 5:20:03 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

She didn’t get the memo from Fidel Castro.

He said the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency created ISIS.


2 posted on 05/14/2015 5:21:37 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Citizen Zed

The stupid ... it burns.


3 posted on 05/14/2015 5:25:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Citizen Zed

“O” created ISIS, if ANYONE did.

We had not business leaving Iraq without a proper exit plan... I guess.


4 posted on 05/14/2015 5:25:58 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Citizen Zed

Of course her messiah had nothing to do with, Bush’s fault.

Pray America is waking


5 posted on 05/14/2015 5:29:22 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: SMARTY

we had no buisness entering iraq also, muslims have been killing muslims since muhammed time and allowing muslims democracy is a dumb thing.

Muslims needs a dictator to keep them in check like saddam or sisi


6 posted on 05/14/2015 5:29:41 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Citizen Zed

Oh! Oh! Oh! She got to be a big-mouth, use some big words she barely understands, and she got to accuse Dubya of creating ISIS! Wow! She really had a big day!

The dumber they are, the louder they shout...and the prouder they are of their stupidity.

Ahhhh - to be 19 again and share all of my vast knowledge with the world at high decibels!


7 posted on 05/14/2015 5:29:53 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Nextrush
He (Castro) said the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency created ISIS.

That is a popular opinion over at the (libertarian?) site Zero Hedge.

8 posted on 05/14/2015 5:33:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Citizen Zed

A fringe lunatic leftist political “science” major programmed by fringe lunatic liberal leftist “professors.”


9 posted on 05/14/2015 5:33:50 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is why the MSM wants Jeb.
“Jeb’s brother created ISIS”
Three months of that and Hillary will have a 20 pt lead by Sept.


10 posted on 05/14/2015 5:34:32 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Citizen Zed
Ten bucks says that Ivy doesn't read Arabic.
11 posted on 05/14/2015 5:34:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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To: Leaning Right

ahh that conspiracy theory, ive also seen nutjobs claiming that the leader of isis Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a jewish mossad agent by the name of Simon Elliott


12 posted on 05/14/2015 5:35:43 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: The Right wing Infidel

We had plenty of business in Iraq. One can appropriately argue with the way we went about it, but we had plenty of business going in there.

They were harboring terrorists. Can you deny that?


13 posted on 05/14/2015 5:35:49 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is obvious to all of us but Jeb is demonstrated absolutely zero ability to handle questions on the fly. The answer here is simple. Well, Ms liberal, there’s been someone else in the office for over six years. He changed course in Iraq. Blaming someone who’s been retired for 5 years before ISIS even existed is probably missing the cause of the situation. The vacuum created by our absence is purely responsible. Al Qaeda and terror groups were at a low entering 2009. Now, that’s not the case.


14 posted on 05/14/2015 5:35:57 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Citizen Zed
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey created ISIS - to fill a vacuum with Sunnis - any Sunnis - before Iran and its Shiites could step in.
15 posted on 05/14/2015 5:36:55 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: rlmorel

and what muslim state is not ? and iraq was nowhere near the worst offender, saudi arabia and iran are way way worse in that matter


16 posted on 05/14/2015 5:36:57 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: The Right wing Infidel

“Muslims needs a dictator to keep them in check...”

Perfect! I say, let’s send “O” and his tuna over there to do THAT, once they leave DC! :)


17 posted on 05/14/2015 5:36:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Citizen Zed

Leftards can’t fathom the idea of actually doing research... the truth tends to get in the way of a good narrative.

The ISIS was formed under a different name by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in 1998... the same year our embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi were blown to pieces and more than 250 people killed. Bubba Clinton’s feckless response (the token Tomahawk strikes against the empty expanse around Khost, Afghanistan and the aspirin factor in Khartoum Sudan) likely encouraged Zarqawi, since no evidence existed the US was serious about combatting terrorism.


18 posted on 05/14/2015 5:37:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Ten bucks says that Ivy doesn't read Arabic.

...or cursive.

19 posted on 05/14/2015 5:39:27 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: ilgipper

I would love to hear Cruz’s response to this airhead...


20 posted on 05/14/2015 5:41:32 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment.)
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