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Windows 10 Reportedly the Last Version of Windows — Is Windows a Service Now?
TP ^ | 05/07/2015 | Manish Singh

Posted on 05/07/2015 9:05:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dayglored

Everyone say it with me: PaaS (Platform as a Service)

If you think it’s not already here, you’re not paying attention.


21 posted on 05/07/2015 9:58:18 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am in the process of transitioning to Linux finally. to hell with Microsoft.


22 posted on 05/07/2015 9:59:39 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Win10 is apparently dropping Windows Media Center.

That could render previous versions of some hardware and software useless.

http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/win10-build-10074-whats-new-whats-unknown//?u=yndpertffs5x&r=98722-15911


23 posted on 05/07/2015 10:01:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jonty30

I use to think that way until I started buying engineering software. The initial license for one package I use was $18,000, then every year, you have to pay the subscription of $2200. A new package was just released by their competitor that gives the same level of functionality for $120 per month with NO initial license purchase. Then again this situation is different then going out and buying a seat of Quickbooks.

With an OS I am with you. I have a few computers that I never put on the web. I have been buying up high end laptops (used) with XP. I need them for some of my shop equipment. I go crazy with unrequested mandatory updates from Windows 8. I can’t imagine how bad it would be if I have to subscribe every month to a Windows 10.


24 posted on 05/07/2015 10:09:22 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: unixfox
Can you imagine how much money Microsoft would have made in the 80’s and 90’s if people hadn’t copied their O/S and other software.

They might have made much more if they just went for volume say maybe $10.00 a pop.

25 posted on 05/07/2015 10:54:25 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Westbrook
Red Hat Enterprise Linux has been using this marketing model for at least 10 years now.
The difference is that with Red Hat, the software and all the source files are free.

However, if you want updates and security fixes, you need an annual subscription. IIRC, there are three levels of tech support, silver, gold, and platinum, starting at $50/year for silver support for a single system. There are probably discounts for multiple users and enterprise subscriptions.

Alternatively, there is Red Hat’s CentOS, which is completely free, including sources, and tracks Red Hat Enterprise Linux, release for release. CentOS includes updates, but tech support is limited to their user forum and your favorite search engine.

I think Ubuntu Linux runs on a donation basis.

Don’t know offhand how the other Linux flavors make their money.

Slackware (which I use) is still a donation basis. A well deserved donation, I might add.
26 posted on 05/07/2015 12:56:51 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: tacticalogic

“Apparently whoever came up with Device Guard didn’t get that memo.”

Device Guard is just another bag on the side. It’s not real security: real security is built-in right from the start.


27 posted on 05/07/2015 10:19:57 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
Device Guard is just another bag on the side. It’s not real security: real security is built-in right from the start.

Malware targets the user as the vulnerability, not the OS. Show me the OS that can fix that.

28 posted on 05/08/2015 3:49:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

“Malware targets the user as the vulnerability”

Indeed it does - for secure systems. For insecure systems like Windows and IE, malware targets the system insecurities directly, which is why Microsoft issues a steady stream of SECURITY UPDATES. These security updates are not fixing broken users, they’re fixing broken software.


29 posted on 05/08/2015 10:30:10 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
For insecure systems like Windows and IE, malware targets the system insecurities directly.

Please provide the source documentation.

30 posted on 05/08/2015 10:33:29 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

“Please provide the source documentation.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=malware+targets+windows+insecurities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=malware+targets+microsoft+windows+insecurities


31 posted on 05/08/2015 12:39:13 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
From the first page of those search results: Malware: not just a Windows Problem

"Despite what the anti-Redmond crowd have blogged over the years, however, hackers didn’t target Microsoft products exclusively because they were insecure, or because the people involved had some ideological death-wish on the company. No – they did it because Microsoft was the most used end-point device environment in the world. Bill Gates’ “Windows Everywhere” ambition, once realised, made it the most obvious of all targets."

32 posted on 05/08/2015 12:43:50 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

So?

How about the FIRST link in the search:

http://www.howtogeek.com/141944/htg-explains-why-windows-has-the-most-viruses/

Why Windows Has the MOST Viruses

The Sad Security History of Windows

Historically, Windows was not designed for security. While Linux and Apple’s Mac OS X (based on Unix) were built from the ground-up to be multi-user operating systems that allowed users to log in with limited user accounts, the original versions of Windows never were.

DOS was a single-user operating system, and the initial versions of Windows were built on top of DOS. Windows 3.1, 95, 98, and Me may have looked like advanced operating systems at the time, but they were actually running on top of the single-user DOS. DOS didn’t have proper user accounts, file permissions, or other security restrictions.

Windows NT – the core of Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7, and now 8 – is a modern, multi-user operating system that supports all the essential security settings, including the ability to restrict user account permissions. However, Microsoft never really designed consumer versions of Windows for security until Windows XP SP2. Windows XP supported multiple user accounts with limited privileges, but most people just logged into their Windows XP systems as the Administrator user. Much software wouldn’t work if you did use a limited user account, anyway. Windows XP shipped without a firewall enabled and network services were exposed directly to the Internet, which made it an easy target for worms. At one point, the SANS Internet Storm Center estimated an unpatched Windows XP system would be infected within four minutes of connecting it directly to the Internet, due to worms like Blaster.

In addition, Windows XP’s autorun feature automatically ran applications on media devices connected to the computer. This allowed Sony to install a rootkit on Windows systems by adding it to their audio CDs, and savvy criminals began leaving infected USB drives lying around near companies they wanted to compromise. If an employee picked up the USB drive and plugged it into a company computer, it would infect the computer. And, because most users logged in as Administrator users, the malware would run with administrative privileges and have complete access to the computer.

etc.


33 posted on 05/08/2015 2:21:23 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
I notice you were careful to omit the first paragraph:

"Windows is a big target because it powers the vast majority of the world’s desktop computers and laptops. If you’re writing malware and you want to infect average computers users – perhaps you want to install a key logger on their systems and steal their credit card numbers and other financial data – you would target Windows because that’s where the most users are.

This is the most common argument for Windows having such a history of malware, and it’s true"

Maybe both you and your customers might be better off if you just didn't work on Windows systems any more.

34 posted on 05/08/2015 2:28:16 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

But if Windows were ACTUALLY secure, it wouldn’t matter HOW big it was. But it’s not, which is why the various NT Windows-based OSes have had to have hundreds of security patches over the decades.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/173674/adding_up_six_years_of_microsoft_patch_tuesdays.html


35 posted on 05/08/2015 2:47:04 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
But if Windows were ACTUALLY secure, it wouldn’t matter HOW big it was. But it’s not, which is why the various NT Windows-based OSes have had to have hundreds of security patches over the decades.

Nothing is absolutely secure. If you can't deal with that, maybe you should just leave it alone.

36 posted on 05/08/2015 2:50:58 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Westbrook
Don't forget Fedora: the continuation of their original Red Hat Linux product, from the 90s--in the Linux world, I started out with Red Hat Linux 6.1...

The Fedora Project

37 posted on 05/08/2015 4:54:31 PM PDT by __rvx86 (Ted Cruz: Proving that conservative populism is a winning strategy. GO CRUZ!)
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To: __rvx86

Heh I’m running f21 on a workstation and as a Vbox guest on a W8 desktop.


38 posted on 05/08/2015 7:50:57 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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