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The Future of Guns: Political Battle Will Focus on States
WSJ ^ | 4-27-15 | Jennifer Carlson

Posted on 05/02/2015 7:39:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Sociologist Jennifer Carlson says Americans will become more bitterly divided over the place of guns in society.

The most significant development won’t be a nationwide swing toward gun rights or gun control—but a widening and entrenched gulf that will divide Americans politically, socially and even technologically.

Gun-control initiatives will follow the approach blazed by the gun lobby, shifting away from the national stage and focusing increasingly on state-level efforts in places like California, Colorado, Connecticut and Washington. With the gun debate focused on state-level politics, high-profile shootings will exacerbate the division between these two Americas: in restrictive states, a demand for more laws; in permissive states, a demand for more guns.

In states with weak gun-control lobbies, expanded gun rights will be limited only by more centrist contingents of the gun lobby—for example, gun-rights proponents who speak out against the open carrying of firearms, which has been the subject of heated debate in Texas and elsewhere.

Polarization will result in greater diversity among gun owners.

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist
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1 posted on 05/02/2015 7:39:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Anybody who agitates or votes against his absolute right to defend himself is a fool.


2 posted on 05/02/2015 7:50:55 PM PDT by clintonh8r (ISIS IS ISlam/Christian lives matter!)
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To: smokingfrog

Not enough court challenges against state laws. We’re challenging a lot of them here in CA and making some progress, but the whole nation needs more. NY’s latest and the earliest (Sulivan) sure don’t seem constitutional to me.


3 posted on 05/02/2015 7:52:25 PM PDT by umgud (Criminals, not guns, drive the crime rates.)
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To: smokingfrog
I don't know whether it's a good or bad thing, but the persistent focus on the Gun Lobby as a boogieman blurs the magnitude of popular support for the right to own firearms. In the case of the prohibitionists it's easy to see why this focus - it isn't quite a straw man, but it's close - is advantageous: the implication is that outside the malign influence of the Gun Lobby Americans would naturally throw the nasty things into the ocean and break out into a chorus of We Are The World. That simply isn't the case. And frankly, the NRA is far more powerful in reputation than in fact.

Two of the author's "predictions" are simply observations of fact: first, that the fight is, and has been for some time, focused back at state level and the gun prohibitionists are losing badly; second, that firearms ownership demographics were never quite as lily-white as The Narrative claimed and are diversifying further not simply as a function of advertisement but as a function of the broadening conviction that the state cannot or will not protect the citizens in question. The right of self-protection gains a great deal of credence in the face of the necessity of self-protection.

For state-obsessed progressives and other totalitarians this isn't a good development. For the rest of us, it is, and if that "rest" includes anarchists, black separatists, revolutionaries, and other common allies of the Left, then all one can say is that politics makes strange bedfellows, and that maybe the gun prohibitionists will recognize a losing battle when it's staring them in the face. Or not. People who believe their own propaganda tend to be very hard to reach.

4 posted on 05/02/2015 7:54:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: clintonh8r

Anyone who uses the term “gun lobby” is a gungrabber ipso facto.

Ms. Carlson is accusing gun rights supporters of being “divisive”. A “divided society” is defined as one in which there is active & often successful resistance to the dominant liberal political culture.

Oh horrors! To a liberal, the ultimate accusation of blasphemy is to be “divisive”.


5 posted on 05/02/2015 7:59:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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To: smokingfrog

Anyone taking bets on gun sales in the bedroom communities around Baltimore?


6 posted on 05/02/2015 8:01:50 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: smokingfrog

With the advent of the inexpensive automated milling machine (Ghost Gunner), gun control may be a meaningless exercise. Combined with 3D printing, producing a quality firearm is within reach of the masses.


7 posted on 05/02/2015 8:08:32 PM PDT by jimbobfoster
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To: Billthedrill

If everyone had guns and knew how to use them then the crime rate would drop significantly


8 posted on 05/02/2015 8:25:16 PM PDT by citizen352 (I have done no harm. But I remember now. l am in this earthly world...)
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To: Ken H
Baltimore Riots Point To Failure of Gun Control Laws
9 posted on 05/02/2015 8:41:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: elcid1970

“Anyone who uses the term “gun lobby” is a gungrabber ipso facto.”

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I was thinking the same thing when I saw this Jennifer broad’s comment.

It’s a Constitutional right, a fact lost on the moonbat Jennifer’s in the media.


10 posted on 05/02/2015 8:49:09 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Hitlery Rotten Clinton should be in a federal prison, NOT in the Oval Office.)
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To: smokingfrog
With the gun debate focused on state-level politics, high-profile shootings will exacerbate the division between these two Americas: in restrictive states, a demand for more laws; in permissive states, a demand for more guns.

So, are more high profile shootings planned?

If the perps are Muslims, will the event be characterized as terrorism or will that aspect be shoved under the carpet (again)?

11 posted on 05/02/2015 10:04:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
A God given right, endowed upon us by the Creator, inalienable, and spelled out as it is reiterated in the Constitution.
12 posted on 05/02/2015 10:18:36 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Ken H

;-)


13 posted on 05/02/2015 11:36:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

I wonder how long before the first news report on record gun sales in the area:)


14 posted on 05/03/2015 12:07:06 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: clintonh8r

They sure want guns when the crap starts happening around them.

Just remember the stories Chuck Heston had about the LA riots and his lefty friends calling him up to borrow some guns. He told them to go to the gun stores and buy them. They would say, yeah but there’s this waiting period....and then he reminded them they voted for that.


15 posted on 05/03/2015 12:33:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ken H

The safe money says, “Less than a week.”


16 posted on 05/03/2015 12:39:23 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: smokingfrog

Just another wtf article.


17 posted on 05/03/2015 1:44:49 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: smokingfrog
"Sociologist" Jennifer Carlson needs to go back to school. Funny how she can take her wish to take guns away and turn it into a fantasy world where human nature will make it happen.

Another sociologist made the statement:

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation”

Jenny would have never made it in his classes.

18 posted on 05/03/2015 4:21:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: elcid1970
"Oh horrors! To a liberal, the ultimate accusation of blasphemy is to be “divisive”."

And all the while progressives break society into "groups" to create "problems" the government can "solve" by spending money and increasing control. Divide and conquer - white vs black, rich vs poor, middle class, citizens vs aliens, etc.

19 posted on 05/03/2015 7:56:44 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: smokingfrog

On July 1st there will be a lot more “Please and thank you” in the State of Kansas as we become a more polite Constitutional conceal carry state.


20 posted on 05/03/2015 8:05:04 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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