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Mystery patch KB 3035583 for Windows 7 and 8 revealed
InfoWorld ^ | April 6, 2015 | Woody Leonhard

Posted on 04/06/2015 8:03:32 AM PDT by dayglored

Late last month a mysterious patch suddenly appeared as an Optional entry in the Windows Automatic Update chute. At the time I wrote:

Conjecture at this point: It's somehow related to the ability to upgrade directly from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10. But of course, the official documentation doesn't say anything of the sort.

The crows have come home to roost and, thanks to a German researcher named Gerard Himmelein at heise.de, we now have a more thorough understanding of exactly what Microsoft's dishing out (a Google English translation of the post is available). Yesterday Jan Willem Aldershoff at Myce posted an analysis in English, with a Dutch-language screenshot, and this morning Vlad Dudau at Neowin gave us an English-language shot.

Microsoft provides an explanation -- of sorts -- in the KB article:

This update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user. It applies to a computer that is running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1).
That's the entirety of the official explanation.

Analysis shows, though, that KB 3035583 is a shill for Windows 10. As poster rugk on the "eset Security Forum" says, it's "an adware/PUA/PUS/PUP for Windows 10 upgrade."

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(Excerpt) Read more at infoworld.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: internet; microsoft; nagware; patch; tech; windows; windows10; windowspinglist; windowsupdate
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I have seen this Windows Update patch appear in all of my Win7 machines in the past couple of days.

The tempest-in-a-teapot uproar seems to be because Microsoft isn't telling users the truth about what the update does. That naturally makes people suspicious. Yeah, it's sorta sneaky...

The article makes it sound like this is a bad thing -- frankly I'm not sure it is. After all, the Windows 10 upgrade is free for all the Win7 and Win8.x users that this nagware is going to annoy, so what's the big deal?

I am currently taking the position that it's within the bounds of allowable nagging, if perhaps not in the best of taste since it's not being described honestly.

I'm curious what other FReepers think, so have at it...

1 posted on 04/06/2015 8:03:32 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; AppyPappy; ...
Mystery Windows Update to auto-download Windows 10 when it becomes available ... PING!


2 posted on 04/06/2015 8:05:03 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

It may be something else: it provides the “hooks” to do the Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade for more safely without losing apps or user data. I believe Apple has done this before in the past with MacOS X versions.


3 posted on 04/06/2015 8:06:52 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: dayglored

This is just nagware. They’re going to put a tile on your Start screen to keep you up to date on Windows 10. When 10 goes retail, they’ll start pushing users to upgrade to 10.

The problem I have with this is that Windows 10 is going to force users “into the cloud.” There are going to be some interesting back-channel changes with 10 that even I, as an MCP, are unsure I like. Microsoft needs to understand that not everyone wants to be connected to the cloud. That WILL be a deal breaker for me with MS desktop OS.


4 posted on 04/06/2015 8:07:32 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: dayglored

will you get a windows 10 product key with this upgrade ? Will you have to pay to get a fresh install ?


5 posted on 04/06/2015 8:10:50 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: dayglored

It’s fine with me.

It is a rare bird that will be annoyed by this, or even know about it.


6 posted on 04/06/2015 8:11:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: molson209

“will you get a windows 10 product key with this upgrade ? Will you have to pay to get a fresh install ?”

And a way to create restore media. I would hate to have to reinstall 8.0 and take a few days to upgrade from there back to 10... lol


7 posted on 04/06/2015 8:14:32 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: rarestia

Interesting, I agree about that cloud thing and don’t want anything to do with it.


8 posted on 04/06/2015 8:14:43 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: RayChuang88
> I believe Apple has done this before in the past with MacOS X versions.

Sure enough. My Mavericks (10.9) system reminds me that Yosemite (10.10) is available every chance it gets. And I'm not doing it because I don't like the "flat" look of the UI in the newer release.

Aside: It's the same problem I have with Windows Metro's "flat" look. Dammit I paid for good graphics processing hardware that can do shading and pseudo-3D effects, I don't want to lose them just because some low-end cell phone doesn't have the same GPU hardware.

9 posted on 04/06/2015 8:16:25 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: rarestia

Cloud-centric computing is most definitely NOT my thing. The main reason I have kicked Win 8 to the curb.

IMHO, MSFT is committing a fatal error by forcing everyone to use the cloud.

I for one have no use for it. Way too unstable for me.


10 posted on 04/06/2015 8:18:17 AM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Governent is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V.)
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To: dayglored

Well, it pales in comparison to the firmware that came with my Brother printer.

In addition to the driver and some enhanced features, I now get annoying daily pop-up ads enticing me to buy Dragon and other products from the code’s author, Nuance Software.

And if I am in the middle of a document or some other activity the machine will grind to an immediate halt until I click out of that ad with a “no”. Damned annoying!


11 posted on 04/06/2015 8:22:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dayglored

OK- FReeper with tech super skills— I’ve had it with this windows crap of patch patch BS and continual forced upgrades.

How to do I get free of windows? (Not “get a Mac”- I know that route). Do I convert opsystem to Linux? If so how to do that.

Truly- can’t stand bill gates or his spawn. The apple cores are as looney or more so and more expensive as such.

Need compatible with windows apps, but NOT windows. Help if you would. Thank you, and Happy Easter.


12 posted on 04/06/2015 8:26:36 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby; ShadowAce
> Need compatible with windows apps, but NOT windows.

You might take a look at WINE on Linux. Linux is a superb operating system, but natively it is not at all compatible with Windows apps. The WINE package simulates a Windows app-support environment in which many/most standard Windows applications can run successfully.

My personal experience has been to run one of each OS; I ran WINE on Linux many years ago, and found I had enough Windows apps that didn't perform adequately with WINE that it was worth having a real copy of Windows around for those apps. Others' experience differs considerably.

I'm pinging ShadowAce on this question because he knows a lot more current info on WINE and other options than I do.

Happy Easter to you too!

13 posted on 04/06/2015 8:34:33 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: MaxMax

Seriously, bring back 95 or XP.


14 posted on 04/06/2015 8:36:03 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: John S Mosby; dayglored
Mac OS 10.10.2 (Yosemite) is free.

I just upgraded this weekend. Got tired of being an antiyosemite...

Like dayglored, I don't like the flat look, but it is noticeably faster.

And it did give me the option of NOT being connected to the cloud. Just what I want, every scrap of data I own being elsewhere! NOT!

15 posted on 04/06/2015 8:37:59 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: bgill
No thank you, not a chance. Leave my Win7pro alone, it's very stable.
I don't miss my old 1970's Ford either.
16 posted on 04/06/2015 8:38:30 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: bgill

*sigh* I’m upgrading to Win 7 next weekend. My new CAD program just won’t run on XP. Dammit.


17 posted on 04/06/2015 8:39:47 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: null and void

With Windows 8, you can switch to an offline account still.

http://dottech.org/87239/windows-8-how-to-switch-between-local-offline-account-and-microsoft-online-account-and-vice-versa/


18 posted on 04/06/2015 8:48:02 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: rarestia

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I can’t imagine that the cloud can be considered workable for many.

What happens when your connection goes down? Too bad I guess!

In keeping with the abundance of bad ideas that confound life these days.
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19 posted on 04/06/2015 8:48:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dayglored

KB 3035583
No sign of that anywhere on my Win-7, SP-1 machines.
MalwareBytes grabs all the PUPs.


20 posted on 04/06/2015 8:50:23 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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