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Did (Western) Allied troops rape 285,000 German women? [tr ed]
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 26, 2015 | Guy Walters

Posted on 03/26/2015 8:34:12 AM PDT by C19fan

There was no doubt that Private Blake W. Mariano of the 191st Tank Battalion was a brave man. As part of the American Army's 45th Infantry Division, he had killed many Germans as he fought through Africa, Italy and southern France, before finally, in March 1945, he and his Sherman tank had crossed the Rhine into Germany. By April 15, 1945, Mariano had been away from his home in New Mexico for nearly three years. A father of three, the 29-year-old was divorced, although he did have a girlfriend in England.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: africa; allies; americanarmy; battalion; england; france; germans; germany; hitler; infantry; italy; newmexico; rape; rhine; tank; unitedstates; war; wwii
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To: Enterprise
During WWII there were 9 Red Ball Express drivers who would stop their trucks and rape French women. Eisenhower learned about it and had them hanged.

That's good to hear.Let the savages that we fight...and the savages of at least one of our past "allies" in war...do that kind of thing.

41 posted on 03/26/2015 9:50:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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To: KC_Lion

The Soviets raped gazillions. 100,000 Berlin women committed suicide after being raped. Did the Western allies rape over 200,000? That figure seems way too high.


42 posted on 03/26/2015 9:53:08 AM PDT by rcofdayton (.)
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To: C19fan

Certainly the Russians did it and were brutal.


43 posted on 03/26/2015 9:54:49 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

And they were encouraged to do it by higher ups.


44 posted on 03/26/2015 10:19:34 AM PDT by Daralundy
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To: Steve_Seattle
You can get on the internet and find people in Japan who claim rape of Japanese women by GIs was common. There is one story about several truckloads of GIs invading a Japanese hospital and raping every woman in it. Naturally, there is no corroborating evidence.

My own feeling is that, while obviously rapes occurred, many of the rape stories have been invented by leftists who have obvious reasons for inventing these mass rape stories. The fact that twenty-nine GIs were hanged for rape leads me to believe most soldiers studiously avoided assaulting German women for fear of the ultimate punishment.

This is most likely just typical leftists making unfounded smears and insinuations for ideological reasons.

45 posted on 03/26/2015 10:22:38 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Snickering Hound
"sex for food"

Occam's razor. Many young German woman were in severe straights directly after the war. Several million young, male German soldiers were dead and many more severely maimed. Allied soldiers became the "benefactors" of their, German women, sorry situations.

46 posted on 03/26/2015 10:27:09 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I think you're right, Steve.

When I was in the Army, a sign was posted there warning that rape is a crime.

47 posted on 03/26/2015 10:29:55 AM PDT by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Sioux-san

My mother who had just turned 13 at the time of the Russian invasion of Berlin was cornered by a drunken, armed soldier in her family’s apartment - maybe he had official business or not, I don’t know. While her mother and grandmother were crying in another room he attempted to restrain my mom and by God’s grace she was able to elude him and dash out of the building. She hid for several hours before being brave enough to go home. The Russians were pigs.


48 posted on 03/26/2015 10:37:24 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: KC_Lion

A lot of the supposed rapes by Americans were probably barter on the most primitive scale. Seventy years later they turn into rape.


49 posted on 03/26/2015 10:42:06 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Ted Cruz 2016!)
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To: C19fan

There were 1.5 million American servicemen stationed in Germany eventually. Did 1 in 6 of them have sex with the local women? I’m supposing that the author might label, “rape” any instance of sexual relations between a soldier from an occupying army and a local from the occupied territory. It may not be the sort of violent, brutal horror of war that the term brings to the imagination, but it is also a deeply problematic ethical issue. And I might even argue that the women who were the more readily “seduced” were probably also among the more innocent of the charge of supporting the genocidal madness of Hitler: passive, independent, willing to approach “the enemy...”


50 posted on 03/26/2015 10:42:20 AM PDT by dangus
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To: silverleaf

Russians raped on a massive scale, it was industrial level raping.

Russians are a terrible people.


51 posted on 03/26/2015 10:43:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: C19fan

“Never mind that the German population was complicit in countless horrors.”

No, I do mind. A hand wave won’t make the difference between the allies and the axis go away any more than it works for Islamism and Western civ.


52 posted on 03/26/2015 10:47:29 AM PDT by sparklite2
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To: C19fan

I was well acquainted with a Polish Catholic woman who survived WWII as a comely young girl in late teens

She lived it

The Russians were far worse than the Germans per her first hand account

Jewish Poles obviously got hit by both

Rapes endemic by Allied troops is preposterous

It was a serious infraction

Only one US fighting force ever had much firsthand accounts of rape and even that was scant

Nothing more delusional than a fembot


53 posted on 03/26/2015 10:47:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: punknpuss

I just can’t believe that as a RULE, American troops acted like the Russians did. The Russians were led by a murderous godless tyrant, Stalin, whereas Eisenhower and Patton seemed to have a strong code of moral(Christian-based) conduct on the order of George Washington. I hope I am not being naïve here.


54 posted on 03/26/2015 10:49:25 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: C19fan

Or one in three American women sexually assaulted

Some count an ass pat as sexual assault or even an unsolicited ask out


55 posted on 03/26/2015 10:49:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: dangus

Seduced in quotes?

You seem to support this attack on our dads by this leftist feminist who is just making this stuff up.


56 posted on 03/26/2015 10:50:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Enterprise

Red Ball Express

Amish right?


57 posted on 03/26/2015 10:51:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Sioux-san

There is no way that the Western Allies even came close to the Ruskies in that area. Not saying they didn’t commit any rapes, but you can bet most rapes by Western troops were severely punished.


58 posted on 03/26/2015 10:53:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wardaddy
"Amish right?"

Dead on!

59 posted on 03/26/2015 10:55:48 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sparklite2

A hand wave? This is just made up nonsense by a non-historian feminist lefty.

You really want to claim that the Americans and Brits were like the Nazis?


60 posted on 03/26/2015 10:55:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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