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There Is No ‘Proper English’: Ignore grammar scolds. If people say it, it’s the right way to speak
Wall Street Journal ^ | 03/17/2015 | OLIVER KAMM

Posted on 03/17/2015 7:37:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s a perpetual lament: The purity of the English language is under assault. These days we are told that our ever-texting teenagers can’t express themselves in grammatical sentences. The media delight in publicizing ostensibly incorrect usage. A few weeks ago, pundits and columnists lauded a Wikipedia editor in San Jose, Calif., who had rooted out and changed no fewer than 47,000 instances where contributors to the online encyclopedia had written “comprised of” rather than “composed of.” Does anyone doubt that our mother tongue is in deep decline?

Well, for one, I do. It is well past time to consign grammar pedantry to the history books.

As children, we all have the instinct to acquire a set of rules and to apply them. Any toddler is already a grammatical genius. Without conscious effort, we combine words into sentences according to a particular structure, with subjects, objects, verbs, adjectives and so on. We know that a certain practice is a rule of grammar because it’s how we see and hear people use the language.

That’s how scholarly linguists work. Instead of having some rule book of what is “correct” usage, they examine the evidence of how native and fluent nonnative speakers do in fact use the language. Whatever is in general use in a language (not any use, but general use) is for that reason grammatically correct.

The grammatical rules invoked by pedants aren’t real rules of grammar at all. They are, at best, just stylistic conventions: An example would be the use of a double negative (I can’t get no satisfaction). It makes complete grammatical sense, as an intensifier. It’s just a convention that we don’t use double negatives of that form in Standard English.

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TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: english; grammar; idiot
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1 posted on 03/17/2015 7:37:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

watdis ator meenz?


2 posted on 03/17/2015 7:40:03 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For views of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

what a wonderful idea!
schools fail to teach the kids so now we can all decide it doesn’t matter if they learn or not, anyway

hey, does this “the answer is whatever feels good to YOU” approach....also work on math tests?

(if so, its 50 years too late to help me, dam&!!!)


3 posted on 03/17/2015 7:41:08 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Foolish people ... have eyes and see not)
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To: SeekAndFind

Irregardless of this writers opinion, unproper usage literally makes my head explode.


4 posted on 03/17/2015 7:41:41 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: SeekAndFind
An example would be the use of a double negative (I can’t get no satisfaction). It makes complete grammatical sense, as an intensifier.

Bull. A double negative is a positive. The second negative is a modifier which turns the first negative into a affirmative. Or to state the math rule, "minus a minus is always a plus".

So the speaker is stating that he does get satisfaction.

5 posted on 03/17/2015 7:41:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: SeekAndFind
It is hard to beat Strunk and White if you want to be clear, and understood.

There is wiggle room for non-formal communications, but if you can't be understood, your point doesn't matter.

/johnny

6 posted on 03/17/2015 7:42:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is nothing but political correctness because blacks from da hood speak such poor English.


7 posted on 03/17/2015 7:42:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That is the worsest thing I’ve ever hear :)


8 posted on 03/17/2015 7:42:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I could care less.


9 posted on 03/17/2015 7:42:50 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Is the word “Ain’t” still proper English?


10 posted on 03/17/2015 7:43:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who axed im?


11 posted on 03/17/2015 7:43:46 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: dainbramaged

RE: I could care less.

Why as for me, I couldn’t care less...


12 posted on 03/17/2015 7:44:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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13 posted on 03/17/2015 7:44:32 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, since Congress is always passing new laws, there is no point in supporting or opposing any particular piece of legislation....


14 posted on 03/17/2015 7:44:33 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Language is NOT mathematical. People forget that to their own undoing.

/johnny

15 posted on 03/17/2015 7:44:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Or to state the math rule, "minus a minus is always a plus".

That was before Common Core came along. Who knows if it's true or not now.

16 posted on 03/17/2015 7:45:06 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Alethephobia-fear of hearing the truth)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dat B gay.


17 posted on 03/17/2015 7:45:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

If people don’t understand what you’re saying, it’s the wrong way to speak.


18 posted on 03/17/2015 7:45:21 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What it is,homey! If I ain't got no prob,slick,why you ain't got one?
19 posted on 03/17/2015 7:46:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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RE: If people don’t understand what you’re saying, it’s the wrong way to speak.

That makes a few of my former Professors educated ignoramuses.


20 posted on 03/17/2015 7:47:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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