Posted on 03/04/2015 7:33:23 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
The NPT was signed in 1968 and became affective in 1970.
Concerning non signatories for the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty), Pakistan, India, Israel and South Sudan fall into this list.
North Korea withdrew from it, and the rest of the world is either a recognized nuclear weapon state ratifier, a recognized nuclear weapon state acceder, and so on.
There are five nuclear weapons states from the NPT (the U.S., Russia, China, France and Great Britain), other states known and/or highly suspect for possessing nuclear weapons (Israel) and states suspected of developing nuclear weapons (Saudi Arabia, Iran and others).
There are several articles on the web that are discussing Iran and Israel and the NPT --- and the points and counter-points are developing on either side.
The main point being proffered as to why Israel shouldn't sign the NPT is:
A.) Israel is a Democracy. Why should they sign it?
Counter-point to A:
B.) So the NPT stipulates that only non-Democratic countries should sign it?
Counter-point to B:
C.) No, but Democratic countries don't make a habit of nuking other Democratic countries and we (The U.S. and Israel) are trying to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons programs.
Counter-point to C.)
D.) So this treat should only be signed by some Democratic nations and every non-Democratic nation?
Counter-point to D:
E.) No, but Democratic nations aren't engaging in proxy terrorism.
Counter-point to E:
F.) So this treaty should only be signed by some Democratic nations even if they don't engage in proxy terrorism?
Counter-point to F:
G.) Israel isn't going to sign the NPT until Iran ends proxy-terrorist activities and ceases its nuclear weapons program.
Counter-point to G:
H.) 1.) The Shah of Iran wasn't overthrow until 1979, so why didn't Israel sign the NPT from 1970 to 1979?
2.) So only non-Democratic countries as well as Democratic countries that don't have a beef with Israel should sign the NPT, but Israel does not have to sign it?
Will some Islamic nations, rogue nations (like North Korea) and other counties like China, Russia, India and Pakistan - and countries like Saudi Arabia and others on the Arabian peninsula who are suspected of having a nuclear weapons program - come to believe that this treaty has enough caveats to drive a Mack truck through?
What say you?
Or maybe Israel just reserves the right to share nuclear technology with its allies should Israel be existentially threatened. Same reason Israel might have submarines to guaranty a retaliatory ability. Keeps them guessing.
Not a chance (BS flag goes here: ). . Not so long as Israel is threatened by insane rabid islamoNazis who are 100 times as numerous and who rule 100 times as much land. It’s tough, very tough being peaceful and “good neighborly” when you’re surrounded by the dregs of Satan’s Legions Hellbent on destroying you. The issue is Iran, not Israel. We need to fix what jimmy Carter broke in Iran. Asap.
A "fail" right in the first sentence.
Regards,
It is awfully odd that the nuke eliminating left wants the one nation threatening to erase Israel to have a nuke.
Counter-point:
Does the NPT contain a clause that allows Israel to share nuclear technology with its allies should Israel be existentially threatened?
That’s the best you have?
Cheerios!
BTW, I went from the top to the bottom and checked everything that the spellcheck missed and I did see that and did change it - or at least I attempted to —— thank you very much.
But your Ad Hominem and Red Herring is still duly noted.
REGARDS!
I would like to see a news article that shows this so as to have it to, ahem, “wave it around” as needed.
I haven’t seen an article like this that shows someone on the left arguing for what you describe (though I imagine that there are some on the left who entertain this thought)
What? No laissez-faire?
What is a possible counter-point to H.) and a counter to the counter-point in post #7?
Back in 2011 Huffpo didn’t seem to be too terribly concerned about it. They were mostly interested in juicy gossip like schoolgirls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/sarah-palin-emails-released_n_874247.html
Again, for the umpteenth time, laissez-faire deals almost exclusively with economics and economic systems, but some here stretch it in an attempt to at least hint that it should influence and dictate all aspects of life.
Not even the most ardent of supporters in this school of thought would dare stray into that realm.
Never mind. I’m replying to the wrong thread.
The American Thinker, The Washington Post, Business Insider, Front Page Magazine, several Israeli newspapers and on and on (today and yesterday) are talking about Iran, Israel and the NPT.
You may be right, but there are many fallible men and women who have offered a plethora of opinions and interpretations on a host of scriptures so that it seems as if no one may know the proper interpretations of many scriptures.
Sure, there are a host of scriptures that cannot be taken any other way than one, like Jesus saying about Himself that there is only One begotten Son:
“For God so loved the world that He gave his ONLY begotten son, that whosoever should believe in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
From this and other related scriptures we get a host of interpretations as to whether everlasting life can be lost or if it cannot be lost - and so on.
No problem. Have a good day.
I. Why do some people insist that Israel commit national suicide? In the world we live in, where Israel is encompassed on every side by implacable enemies who demand her destruction, that’s what signing the NPT would require. The NPT requires that all nuclear armed signatories negotiate in good faith to disarm. This Israel cannot do.
Israel has had plenty of leftist governments and is likely to have one again in a few weeks, yet none saw fit to sign on to the non-proliferation treaty. Maybe it’s a Jewish racial thing, or maybe it’s a sober assessment of the treaty’s implications for Israel.
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