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These Guided Smart Shells Could Revolutionize The Navy's Dated Deck Guns
Foxtrot Alpha ^ | February 24, 2015 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 02/25/2015 6:53:41 AM PST by C19fan

Raytheon's 155mm M982 Excalibur extended-range guided artillery shell is being shrunk down to fit into the Mark 45 five inch deck guns that are deployed aboard the Navy's Cruisers and Destroyers. This miniaturized sea-going Excalibur, known as the N5, could triple the range of current five inch shells and offer pinpoint 'danger close' fire support like never before.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: artillery; guns; naval; shells; usn
I wonder how much these precision shells can be scaled up. Could a 16 inch version of this be made? If the 5 inch can have a range of up to 60 miles imagine a 16 inch shell.
1 posted on 02/25/2015 6:53:41 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Scaling up is no the problem scale down can be but they are already working on a 50 cal. smart round.


2 posted on 02/25/2015 6:57:41 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: C19fan

Back in the 80’s the Navy had a program for rocket boosted shells for BBs..maximum range was about 200 miles, which would have put about 90% of the world’s population within range. It was abandoned when they decision was made to mothball the BBs...they were too expensive to man and maintain.


3 posted on 02/25/2015 6:59:37 AM PST by ken5050 (When the GOP takes the Senate, it will tie Obama's hands for two years. How will he play golf?)
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The Navy doesn’t want to spend money on effective weapons.

Now the POS LCS ships. That is a project worth Billions!!!!

The air force is just as bad with the A-10 and F-35.

All the Tax payer money will burn a hole in the brass’ pocket off they don’t do something with it!


4 posted on 02/25/2015 7:07:31 AM PST by KC_Lion (The Issue is Not The Issue, The Issue is The Revolution.)
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To: C19fan

Forget a new Air Force bomber. Take the Navy’s rail gun, make it 10 times bigger, station it in the middle of the US and launch GPS projectiles into space. We could strike anywhere in the world in minutes, dirt cheap.


5 posted on 02/25/2015 7:09:14 AM PST by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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A hi-tech version of Hitler’s V-3 weapon and Saddam’s mega-cannon designed by John Bull.


6 posted on 02/25/2015 7:11:51 AM PST by C19fan
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To: ryan71

“dirt cheap” Is the reason we won’t see it.


7 posted on 02/25/2015 7:18:02 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: ryan71

And those wouldn’t even need explosives. the kinetic energy alone would make a hell of a mess.

CC


8 posted on 02/25/2015 7:19:33 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Cogito ergo non liberalo: I think, therefore I'm not a Democrat)
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My battle station was as first loader in a 5” 38 gun mount. That was when rounds were hand loaded. I would assume they autoload now. Anyway we drilled, but never got to fire a shot in anger! I was out by the fall of ‘64.


9 posted on 02/25/2015 7:32:21 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: All

Time to resurrect the Raytheon ERGM Navy 5 inch shell (missile?) -

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/ergm.html

Basically the same as described in the article, but with 40 miles more range provided by a rocket boost.

Cancelled in 2008.


10 posted on 02/25/2015 7:42:05 AM PST by az_gila
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To: C19fan

Could a land-based rail gun sling a projectile into space? That would seem to be an efficient way of placing guided kinetic projectiles into a wait-til-we-need-you orbit.


11 posted on 02/25/2015 7:53:20 AM PST by lurk
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To: C19fan
Could a 16 inch version of this be made?

No 16 inch guns anymore.

12 posted on 02/25/2015 7:55:38 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: lurk

I do not see why not. Just a question of making the rail gun big enough or improvements in the magnets to achieve orbital velocity. The question would would the projectile and/or components survive the forces caused by the acceleration.


13 posted on 02/25/2015 7:56:37 AM PST by C19fan
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And survive coming back into the atmosphere. I would assume the projectile would burn up.


14 posted on 02/25/2015 8:53:15 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: DoodleDawg

No 16 inch guns on any ship currently in the U.S. Navy.
However 36 MK.7 16/50 caliber guns and 18 MK.6 16/45 caliber guns in the hands of various states or cities in the U.S.


15 posted on 02/25/2015 9:14:14 AM PST by X Fretensis (IW)
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To: C19fan
Geez, we were designing the GPS antennas for ERGM (Extended Range Guided Munition) for the 5" gun over 15 years ago. Whatever happened to all the work that went into that project?

This has already been done years ago.

16 posted on 02/25/2015 10:22:25 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: az_gila

Ah, did not scroll down to read this. Never knew they canceled it. Money pissed away.


17 posted on 02/25/2015 10:25:40 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: JimRed
My battle station was as first loader in a 5” 38 gun mount. That was when rounds were hand loaded.

In 1951 boot camp we went through a drill of loading those 54-pound 5" projectiles in an ammunition hoist. We were told to grip them around the outside diameter when loading, as you never knew when the hoist would travel up and if you gripped the projectile with one hand over the base, you might lose fingers.

18 posted on 02/25/2015 2:58:51 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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