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Mississippi Legislation Declares All Federal Gun Control Unconstitutional
blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com ^ | 1/26/2015 | Bryan Baucom

Posted on 01/27/2015 9:41:13 AM PST by rktman

Two bills filed in the Mississippi House and Senate would make it an express duty of the state government to protect the gun rights of Mississippians against federal gun control measures.

House Bill 1297 (HB1297) was filed by Rep. Staples last week. It declares “All federal acts, laws, orders, rules or regulations regarding firearms are a violation of the Second Amendment.”

In other words, as the Founders understood, the federal government has no authority over firearms, period.

The bill goes on to declare that all such federal acts are “invalid in this state, shall not be recognized by this state, are specifically rejected by this state, and shall be considered null and void and of no effect in this state.”

It continues with a requirement to stop federal gun control in the state:

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; ms
A step in the right direction for MS. Best line..."In other words, as the Founders understood, the federal government has no authority over firearms, period." And neither does nannie bloomers or the mommies.
1 posted on 01/27/2015 9:41:13 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

The question remains is this: Will the state of Mississippi come to the legal defense of it’s citizens when they violate a federal gun law?


2 posted on 01/27/2015 9:44:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That would seem to indicate that the feds would be conducting arrests inside the sovereign state of MS and any county sheriff can run them off since he is the TOP LEO in the county. Unless of course the state has ceded that level of authority. Since the fed laws would be invalid in MS, the case could be made for false arrest.


3 posted on 01/27/2015 9:47:15 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No...the question is: Will Mississippi ban the ATF from its state? Anything but that is effectively meaningless!


4 posted on 01/27/2015 9:51:05 AM PST by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: rktman

Left wing lunatics from the White House on down would have apoplectic fits should this bill become law. Heads would be exploding nationwide. It would be fun to watch. Wonder where the rest of the legislature and Governor stand on this.


5 posted on 01/27/2015 9:51:35 AM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Now we need someone with a CNC machine and alot of 80% receivers to manufacture MS-only machine guns and hope their is enough money behind the inevitable ATF killing, confiscation, and litigation.


6 posted on 01/27/2015 9:58:18 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: rktman

7 posted on 01/27/2015 10:01:25 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: gr8eman

Feds will just say the ATF is necessary to protect minority voting rights in the state, and the 15th amendment supercedes state law.

Not morally right - but I guarantee that’s what would happen.


8 posted on 01/27/2015 10:05:02 AM PST by lacrew (5th)
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To: gr8eman; WKB

The first time MS really makes any sort of meaningful moves to enforce (or not enforce) fed laws of this nature, the feds will pull back highway, food stamp and medicaid monies...

MS will then fold like a cheap suit.

This is so much kabuki. And they know it.


9 posted on 01/27/2015 10:07:00 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The question remains is this: Will the state of Mississippi come to the legal defense of it’s citizens when they violate a federal gun law?

So here's an interesting thing about that: since CO and WA have legalized marijuana, the number of federal prosecutions in the state have gone down. The Federal government has deliberately cast a blind eye to marijuana laws. This, I believe, sets a precedent that would lead to one hell of a SCOTUS showdown if the feds ever tried to go after a MS gun owner if/when this law passes.

This is very brave of MS and a shot across the bow of the federal government leviathan. If we can get more states to follow suit, I believe we'll have a "mandate" to get the feds out of gun ownership altogether, which would set the media ablaze in apoplexia.

Remember, the Second Amendment is an enshrined RIGHT. It is not transferrable, non-revocable, not debatable. It is clearly a right that we enjoy and that "shall not be infringed." If the feds go after MS for passing a law that directly addresses and affirms an article in the Bill of Rights while casting a blind eye to a federal regulation on the sale and possession of a schedule I drug, I believe it would be the arena of SCOTUS to finally say what the 2A means. If the feds can attack a right in the BoR, what can't they attack?

10 posted on 01/27/2015 10:16:19 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rktman

If this stands, I know where I’m headed. Seriously.


11 posted on 01/27/2015 10:20:22 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: Black Agnes
The first time MS really makes any sort of meaningful moves to enforce (or not enforce) fed laws of this nature, the feds will pull back highway, food stamp and medicaid monies...

MS will then fold like a cheap suit.

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Then forbid employers in the state from collecting federal income taxes, and outlaw any IRS agents from attempting to collect taxes.

12 posted on 01/27/2015 10:23:17 AM PST by farming pharmer
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To: akalinin

Well, the last time MS stood up to the fed gov it didn’t turn out very well for MS.

Just sayin’.


13 posted on 01/27/2015 10:30:51 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: rktman

Actually Mississippi hasn’t “declared” anything. This is merely a bill that is still in committee. After reading the headline I was about to rush down to the gun shop and pick up a few full auto HK MP5s, a few suppressors and a couple 12” witness protection style shotguns BUT it appears from the wording of the bill that Mississippi WILL in fact tolerate federal gun control laws with respect to the aforementioned items. Once you show a willingness to compromise your rights any action from that point forward is generally a net loss of rights. Essentially the State is saying, “look we’ll live with your current infringements but no new ones.” It’s still better than nothing but it’s FAR from telling FedGov to shove its gun control laws.


14 posted on 01/27/2015 10:31:50 AM PST by 762X51
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To: 762X51

Yeah, the title was misleading to say the least. I remember there being a shop in Picayune that was a Class III dealer.


15 posted on 01/27/2015 10:33:22 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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The best reference that I am aware of that supports the Mississippi gun legislation comes from the writings of Justice Joseph Story.
§ 1890. The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defense [sic] of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people [emphass added]. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them. And yet, though this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations. How it is practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it is difficult to see. There is certainly no small danger, that indifference may lead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all the protection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights. — Amendment II: Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 3:§§ 1890–91

Consider that the Founding States probably would have liked to include the intent of the 2nd Amendment in the 1st Amendment’s list of powers prohibited to the federal government, prohibiting federal control of arms. The problem is that the Founders had delegated to the feds the power to raise and support armies as evidenced by the Constitution’s Clause 12 of Section 8 of Article I. So the Founders couldn’t prohibit the feds the power to regulate arms altogether.

So the question is, where did federal arms regulations for civilians come from since there is no clear delegation of such power to the feds in the Constitution? It is disturbing to note that federal arms regulations seem to have started appearing in the books when Constitution-ignoring FDR was president.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

16 posted on 01/27/2015 10:46:11 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: akalinin; Black Agnes

If you two haven’t read the following book then I suggest you buy it as you’ll both enjoy it!

http://www.amazon.com/A-State-Disobedience-Tom-Kratman/dp/0743499204


17 posted on 01/27/2015 11:28:30 AM PST by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: rktman

Refreshing to see laws that limit government, instead of limiting citizens


18 posted on 01/27/2015 11:36:34 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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19 posted on 01/27/2015 12:59:23 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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MS ping


20 posted on 01/27/2015 2:33:54 PM PST by WKB
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