Posted on 01/27/2015 9:04:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Looking at the glorious NON-EVENT that was this BS blizzard, I ask that we conservatives teach our friends how to see the dangers of the nanny state.
Think about it....media, politicians and "scientists" in the government all worked together to SHUT DOWN commerce, freedom of movement, etc.
I know this would be easy to let them off the hook and say "Well, they did their best, better safe than sorry, etc."
I think, however, that this splendidly demonstrates that these entities think of themselves as overlords who KNOW better than their citizenry how to conduct themselves in a potential crisis.
I grew up where schools shut down if the weather was REALLY REALLY bad, but NEVER did we have a governor threaten us with arrest or tell us to not open our business.
The American pioneers would laugh in the face of Cuomo, Malloy, Christie, and the rest. We should too.
Forecasters such as Joe Bastardi have noted for some time an eastward bias to the GFS. This time the GFS had it right. Folks are pretending that nothing major happened with this storm. Tell that to my friends southwest of Boston who have 30 inches of snow to shovel.
The Canadians are storming Juno beach on the AHC this moment.
Soooo...I am expected to depend upon the government to tell me how to survive?
My point isn’t that bad storms come and go. Of course they do. My point is that liberty means we can figure out for ourselves how to survive....the men and women of the 18th and 19th centuries had no infrastructure in a modern sense, and faced dangerous conditions.
They were able to get by without governors threatening them....we can, too.
Good post.
Location, location, location. Mass, and other parts of Ne would disagree. Weather is well, weather.
Try reading up on the history of when large numbers of motorists were caught on highways in bad storms and get back to us.
No. Your government will tell you to stay off the road so you aren't a threat to the health and safety of your fellow citizens.
My point is that liberty means we can figure out for ourselves how to survive....the men and women of the 18th and 19th centuries had no infrastructure in a modern sense, and faced dangerous conditions.
Great -- then let's start by taking away the infrastructure. Let's go out and dig up every mile of highway you use to travel these days, along with the electrical infrastructure and gas mains. Then we won't have to worry about governors threatening anyone ... because the governors won't have any way to get in touch with you anyway.
Maybe I'm the only one who finds it ironic -- and comical -- for someone to sit there and post messages on the internet about how we should all live like we did back when Little House on the Prairie was a life story instead of a TV show.
P.S. When the men and women of the 18th and 19th centuries ran into serious trouble, they had no qualms about calling on their government to help them out. You don't think Pa Ingalls and the other settlers in the Dakota Territory chased all the Indians off the Great Plains by themselves, did you?
I think I didn’t express myself right. My apologies.
I am NOT bashing government for being prepared to clear roads, close schools, etc. That is a legitimate activity.
I am only trying to put out the idea that government is often quite wrong and the resilience and ability of the citizenry to take care of themselves is too often ignored.
If I look out the door and see 4 feet of snow, I am staying home. If I get a call from my neighbor two miles down the road telling me his streets are clear, I might try to work my way out.
Point is, this is none of the government’s business.
They were able to get by without governors threatening them....we can, too.
This is a horrible analogy. There were no automobiles. There were not millions of people living in cold-weather cities like Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago, etc. There was zero way for government officials to communicate quickly with citizens.
I can remember quite a while ago when I was a kid living in Boston, going to the Upham's corner theater for a double feaure.
Walking in at noon and getting out about 3:30 PM in the middle of an unforecast Noreast snow storm.
Bus transportation was stopped and I had to walk home in the snowstorm.
The 38 Hurricane was the same way- unforecast. - tom
Now try doing that with tens of thousands of abandoned, immovable cars clogging up the traffic lanes.
Your general sentiment is fine, and would be applicable in most cases here in the NYC and Boston areas that are dominated by nanny-state leftists.
But that has nothing to do with an overbearing government telling people what to do for their own personal safety. Every public announcement I've heard in the last 36 hours related to this storm involved telling motorists to stay off roads and warning people that public transit was going to be shut down for 12-24 hours. The only things remotely close to a "nanny state" warning about personal well-being were the warnings about being prepared for power outages.
If I look out the door and see 4 feet of snow, I am staying home. If I get a call from my neighbor two miles down the road telling me his streets are clear, I might try to work my way out.
And if you send your kids to a "nanny-state" public school, the first thing you'll have to figure out is whether the schools are open or not. Right?
That’s worth remember too. Just because NYC didn’t get crushed doesn’t mean it wasn’t a bad storm and other places aren’t under the snow. We had that here last year, weather service was predicting a massive rain storm coming up from Baja and flooding Tucson and Phoenix. Turns out the storm “leaned” East, everybody in Tucson and Phoenix were all “where’s our end of the world flood” meanwhile Sierra Vista and other small towns in that area took some serious damage. Both turned out to be pretty much the storm predicted, just not centered in the “right” spots.
PFFFT! Obviously none of the Government's business.
1960s.?
Blizzard of 78 in MA. Textbook example of what happens when motorists are caught out on highways in such conditions.
It was sarcasm. I grew up in the Cleveland area.
That is, I know full well what happens when idiots try to drive in large amounts of snow & on icy roads. And they do & will. Resulting in police & fire departments having to risk their lives because people refuse to act responsibly.
OK, so NYC proper missed the bulk of the storm. Very good. That's why roads were re-opened this morning and as a result, they are plowed to the pavement and the driving is safe. Up in Boston, where they are getting hammered, public roads are still closed. When the storm is over, the citizens will have safe roads to drive upon.
That's why I pay my taxes.
And you, as a citizen of Florida (based on your screen name), can certainly appreciate the evacuations that occur when a hurricane is threatening your area. Or are you insinuating that if a category 1 or 2 hurricane was approaching Miami, that we should keep I-95 open during the storm and not bother to evacuate.
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