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Video shows cop fatally shoot man with raised hands [NJ]
AP/NYPost.com ^ | Jan. 21, 2015

Posted on 01/21/2015 4:24:08 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: dragnet2
I only saw the suspect quickly exit the vehicle straight at the officer who had been trying to keep him in the vehicle and had given him numerous instructions to keep still.
141 posted on 01/21/2015 8:28:24 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: dragnet2
I only saw the suspect quickly exit the vehicle with what appeared to be his empty hands up, raised about to shoulder height.

At 1:46 the suspect's head pops out of the car with his hands nowhere in sight. He then starts raising his arms perpendicular to his body, as if he is putting them in a shooting position and from there his hands sort of barely angle up as he is being shot. All of that within a time interval of about one second.

142 posted on 01/21/2015 8:29:21 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: All
Everyone knows that an unarmed man is harmless. /s
143 posted on 01/21/2015 8:39:10 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: FreeReign

I have no idea what the officer saw from his perspective.
I can only tell ya what I saw in the video from my perspective.

Clearly both officers fired and the suspect is dead.

BTW, the drivers side officer fired what appears to be into the back of the suspect. Based on the audio, the passenger side officers fires first, then driver side opened up.

I would bet the only reason driver side officer fired was because he heard gunfire from the passenger side officer.

A chain shoot, so to speak.


144 posted on 01/21/2015 8:40:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Don’t get angry with me but I’m pretty sure you’re a douchebag.


145 posted on 01/21/2015 8:49:05 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: UCANSEE2

My guess is that he was planning on bullrushing the cop and then running. He knew once they saw the gun that he would be going back to prison.
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How dare you bring common sense to an ignorance festival?


146 posted on 01/21/2015 8:51:25 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: bramps
And I am confident you routinely exchange feet in your mouth as you've exhibited here.

Ya shouldn't let facts bother you so much and above all ya shouldn't assume what others might be thinking. Try sticking to the story instead of attacking others. You'll be better off.

Cheers.

147 posted on 01/21/2015 9:06:32 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bramps

You need to go into to court and tell them all what the suspect was thinking and planning, bramps. Set everyone straight.

Report back.


148 posted on 01/21/2015 9:09:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
...and above all ya shouldn't assume what others might be thinking. Try sticking to the story instead of attacking others. You'll be better off.

ROTFLMAO!

Watch the video.

Well after being told what happened, you still asked me if I watched the video. When it was you who clearly did not watch it closely.

Do you work at a dial an argument call center?

You seen to only want to argue and attack. You've become a distraction. Go bother someone else...

BTW, you might want to relax ... You seem really excited about this. Have a beer maybe.

There is no discussing with you...You’re quite annoying in fact.....Ya wanna be the distracting thread clown? Be my guest.

Follow your own advice. lol

149 posted on 01/21/2015 9:21:27 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: dragnet2

You seem angry.


150 posted on 01/21/2015 9:42:08 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Yeah, I saw that too...

Ya, it's in the article. BTW, this guy was in the joint for over a decade so he knew what he was supposed to do, but he pushed it. They passenger side officer who apparently is black, had prior personal contact with him. However the drivers side officer appeared white and fired 1-2 rounds. Yes I know, none of that should matter and don't IMO. But some groups will obviously use it to their means.

It should have been inordinately obvious to him by the tone, and yes panic/fear in the passenger side officers voice, that this might not end well.

How's Vegas?

151 posted on 01/21/2015 9:48:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

“Lurching, springing, lunging, launching...lol

I only saw the suspect quickly exit the vehicle with what appeared to be his empty hands up, raised about to shoulder height. Was there something there that none of us saw? I have no idea.

The attorneys will come up with all kinds of novel descriptions before this is over.”
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“Your honor, the felon EXPLODED out of the passenger door!”


152 posted on 01/22/2015 3:36:46 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: House Atreides

There ya go...He exploded out the door in an eruption of anger...

BTW the driver will likely say they were merely on their way to pick up some baby food for the orphanage.


153 posted on 01/22/2015 9:20:50 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: golux
The rules have changed, regardless of if you, I, or cops like it or not. Every police shooting is going to start with the assumption that it was the cop's fault. The ones that can't deal with that should probably quit. Not saying I like or agree with it, but the new reality is going to be that any use of lethal force by anybody anywhere had better be backed up with video and/or multiple creditable non-conflicting witnesses that it was the only possible option. There’ve been times in my job (admittedly much less life and death than that of a PO) where the rules changed- adapt or die.
154 posted on 01/22/2015 11:28:05 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: MeganC

Way to misrepresent what happened.

Guy was known to the cop, having served time for shooting at a cop at a traffic stop already.
There was at least one illegal gun known present and in reach.
He was told 9 times to not move.
He was told 5 times to show his hands.
He was told 3 times he would be shot and killed if he did not comply.
He was well warned clearly.
Nonetheless he made a furtive movement toward the officer at contact range.
Yeah he got shot. Duh.


155 posted on 01/23/2015 3:24:08 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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