Posted on 01/21/2015 4:16:40 AM PST by Jed Eckert
No, the most basic rule of gun safety is simply... Never point a gun at anything you don't want/intend to shoot!
The gun shop really does need to do a root-cause failure analysis on this incident.
Somebody put that round in the firearm. They need to find out who and why, and why it was not discovered before the incident.
LOL. Too bad he wasn’t looking down the barrel when it went off.
The gun store owner is responsible for the outcome...case closed. They’re lucky this idiot didn’t shoot a by stander.
HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU HAVE A LOADED WEAPON IN A GUN DISPLAY CASE AT A GUN STORE!!!!!!!!???????????
Watch the video.
Look at how that cop is aiming the gun down the counter at the other customers. Look how he has his finger on the trigger while handling the pistol.
He’s lucky he didn’t shoot and kill someone.
Follow the basic safety rules, folks.
Yes, he’s going to win this case.
The seminal event was the gun being loaded in the first place. Handing the gun to the customer without clearing it compounded the error.
I’ve always received a weapon in the store after the employee has cleared it and locked the slide open.
After those two goofs, the store is liable, no matter how stupidly the customer behaves; because the inescapable truth is, nothing happens if the store does its job, no matter how stupidly the customer behaves. THAT is the reason these protocols exist, just in case the customer is stupid.
The guy is going to win his case.
AND he pulls the trigger with the gun aiming at his own hand.
By the way, nice pink cloud that shot made.
“Never point a gun at anything you don’t want/intend to shoot!”
While I agree with the concept behind the statement, it is not a rule that can really be followed. A gun is always pointing at something, and most of the time one is not intending to shoot.
Yes, a technical point, but still true. If I handle my weapon in my home, I don’t intend to shot anything, but I must still point the gun somewhere...I just make sure it is somewhere safe.
Maybe “Never point a gun at anyone you don’t intend to shoot” would be more accurate?
Did this cop have a heaping bowl of Stupid Cereal before he visited his gun shop? If he shot himself, why hadn't HE verified the pistol was unloaded? This is especially true if there was any confusion as to whether it was loaded or not.
Because a semi-automatic pistol is unloaded when you drop the magazine...
...I learned that from watching Hollywood pitcher shows.
Seriously, though, the gun should not have been loaded, the gun store guy needs to learn how to properly clear a pistol, the cop needs to learn that you never trust that someone else has properly cleared a pistol - do it again yourself, the cop needs to learn not to cover his anatomy with the muzzle.
The gun is the responsibility of whoever is holding it. Case dismissed. Blurring this absolute principle is corruption.
the ultimate responsibility is the gun shop. unquestionably. did the cop contribute? yes, but expecting an empty gun from a gun shop is reasonable.
Stupid employee. Stupid Cop.
I’ve been at gun shows where anti gun nuts have come in and loaded a round in guns on the tables hoping to get someone shot and shut down the gun shows.
Firearm safety rule Number 1: Treat any firearm as if it were loaded at all times.
Also Number 1 indicator the ex-cop is an idiot. I’ve never been to a police academy, but I’ll bet everything I own that rule Number 1 is emphatically repeated at ALL of them.
Don’t cops on a fairly regular basis pick up strange weapons - from people they arrest?
Isn’t the first thing they do clear it?
If nothing else, muscle memory should have kicked in.
What cop doesn’t clear a pistol he just picked up?
“-The salesman should have locked the action open before he handed it to the cop”
Not being a gun shop expert myself, but a curious sort of fellow, I asked my salesman at my favorite gun shop why he DIDN’T leave the action open on the autoloader he handed to me after checking the chamber himself, showing me the empty chamber, closing the action and re-inserting the empty magazine. He explained the store’s protocol thusly; with the action closed and the empty magazine in the pistol, it will take someone with bad intentions several moves in order to insert his own loaded magazine into the firearm and therefor give the salesman enough time to prevent it or draw down on the creep before really bad things can happen.
I don’t ever dry fire ANY weapon, even one of my own, in my own home, even if I’ve just cleaned it, without checking it at least twice.
There are just ways that certain things go wrong...and pulling the trigger on an “empty” firearm is one of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDwQ8DxsALA
I stand by my point. If I am actively handling a weapon, I make sure what it is pointing at is something I would intend to shoot vs. something I don’t intend to shoot. A wall, floor, the ground or other inanimate object is much more innocuous than something animate or precious. Of course you have to keep in mind what is behind the wall or floor or other inanimate object (be aware of your surroundings).
If a weapon I am handling is going to discharge (whether by intent or accident), then what I am actively pointing at should be something I am ok with discharging any weapon I am handling into.
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