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A Confused Brit’s View of Basketball: Why’s It So Easy to Score?
BBC ^ | March 11th, 2014 | Jon Langford

Posted on 01/11/2015 8:23:45 AM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: MinorityRepublican

One difference is that human beings are much bigger and faster than in Naismith’s day. Moving the basket up to 11 feet (or more) would make it harder to score, especially from the inside, and bring in a little more balance with the outside game.


21 posted on 01/11/2015 8:52:44 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Bogey78O

Basketball = Squeak...squeak...whistle. Yuk!


22 posted on 01/11/2015 8:53:33 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Yaelle

To you and others its boring but to a lot of people who pay to watch it in person or watch it on TV its massively popular. Now i will note that College Basketball has gone down in quality because of the AAU street style ball they teach in highschool but the college game is still solidly good. The one thing that many people may not like about collegiate or pro is that with so many games a team has time and chances to correct itself and a few loses in a row doesn’t kill the team and so a regular season isn’t so crucial whereas football, every game matters


23 posted on 01/11/2015 8:53:37 AM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: newfreep
"The pros take 3 steps every time they drive to the basket...and the refs NEVER call traveling."

Correction: Three steps and two hops. They drive from mid-court and the ball never touches the ground.

24 posted on 01/11/2015 8:55:04 AM PST by offwhite
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To: Don Corleone

Baseball for me thanks.


25 posted on 01/11/2015 8:55:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"The most common debunking of the game with slam-dunking is that everything happens in the final two minutes."

My feeling has always been to give each team 100 points and two minutes to play and you wouldn't notice any difference.

26 posted on 01/11/2015 8:58:09 AM PST by offwhite
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To: MinorityRepublican

I Hate ‘rounball ‘. It was almost acceptable before the fundamentals were trashed. It is played professionally for a large part by thugs.

Don’t know if the Brits are right or not. Don’t care.


27 posted on 01/11/2015 8:59:10 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: newfreep

I watched a game on TV in 1987, NBA vs Soviet All Stars, in Moscow. Three refs, two NBA, one Soviet. The Soviet guy called travel on about every other possession, by the NBA. The NBA guys cried like little babies, to the NBA refs.

Finally, after about five minutes, there was a time out. The NBA refs cornered the Soviet guy. Not sure what they said, but it must have been along the lines of “We don’t call traveling”. I think the Soviet guy must have swallowed his whistle.


28 posted on 01/11/2015 8:59:54 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Labyrinthos

I agree about the floppage in soccer and basketball. But at least you aren’t going to see chest pounding, hulk rage poses and celebratory gyrations 40 times a game like in football and basketball. I certainly didn’t dig the fruity running around crazy crap after a goal in the WC but at least they didn’t break it out constantly.

I think the sports with the most casual US fans are probably football and basketball, there’s a lot of folks out there that at least seem to love the decline in defense and rise in offense in those sports.

Freegards


29 posted on 01/11/2015 9:00:08 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: MinorityRepublican

I, too, find fault with basketball (monotony, save for playoffs). Imho, it ‘is’ too easy for some players to score (e.g., Lakers’ Shaquile). In particular, taller players gain advantage in this sport by directly affecting the game (scoring)...an advantage not directly analogous in any other sport I can think of.

The solution is quite elegant and returns the game to one of skill & athleticism as opposed to the tallest player getting to the basket first:

Raise the height of the baskets proportional to the height of the tallest players. Review annually.

Frankly, I could care less. Just an observation made 2 decades ago and roundly criticized by sports nuts in my circle.


30 posted on 01/11/2015 9:00:52 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: PROCON

I hate the tattoo culture, too. I don’t understand it, but many people under roughly 40 are now covered in tattoos and have things shoved in their noses and through their ear lobes. But that’s not about basketball, that’s post-Christian pagan America.

I’m from Hoops City, Memphis, Tennessee. Basketball is a year-round part of the conversation here. It’s a huge deal on every level and lots of fun. I have season tickets for the Memphis Tigers as well as the Memphis Grizzlies. I used to also have Tennessee Titans ticket but gave them up in part because I wasn’t enjoying it. I still enjoy football, but I prefer the college game to the NFL.

By the way, baseball remains my favorite sport and the St. Louis Cardinals remain my favorite team, but my wife and kids don’t care a thing about baseball. They will occasionally humor me and go to Busch Stadium in St. Louis, but I have to bribe them with trips to Six Flags and whatnot.


31 posted on 01/11/2015 9:01:17 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: MinorityRepublican

Basketball is way more fun to play than watch - when I was a young buck, that is.


32 posted on 01/11/2015 9:02:03 AM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: aquila48
And the main problem with soccer (from an American perspective) it’s that it’s too hard to score.

You are both correct.

33 posted on 01/11/2015 9:02:05 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: MinorityRepublican

Have the “confused Brit” explain why it’s so easy to score in Cricket.


34 posted on 01/11/2015 9:02:27 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: MinorityRepublican
It think the Brit forgot that by definition, basketball is high-scoring because of the following factors:

1. The small size of the basketball court encourages scoring.
2. Current basketball rules--especially the banning of hand-checking in the NBA since 2004--has resulted in a lot of scoring because point guards and forwards don't worry so much about being physically beaten up going to the basket.
3. With the ban on hand-checking, NBA has become more and more like FIBA rules basketball played in most of the world, which emphasizes ball movement to get the best shot.

In soccer, the sheer size of the soccer pitch--just slightly larger than an NFL field--makes scoring quite difficult. That's why even at the highest professional levels like the Barclays Premier League in England, 1-0 and scoreless games are fairly common.

If the Brits want to watch a sport with way more scoring, there's always Rugby League/Union and cricket.

35 posted on 01/11/2015 9:04:30 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Slam-dunking" has definitely ruined professional basketball. There is really nothing athletic about a 7 foot man grabbing the hoop with one hand and slamming a ball through it with the other.

Imagine a hockey player getting a penalty shot and just having the open net in front of him. Or imagine a batter in baseball being allowed to walk up to the plate and be able to just hit the ball out of his hand instead of having it pitched to him. It's about the same thing.

A radical change in the rules is necessary to eliminate this ugly play. For example, you could make a rule that any offensive player making contact with the hoop or net with his hands is given a foul and the ball gets turned over to the other team. This will force the players to actually shoot the ball into the net (or lay it up from below). You touch the hoop or net however and a foul is immediately called on you.

It will likely never happen but that is what is needed.

36 posted on 01/11/2015 9:05:27 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Moving the basket up to 11 feet (or more)


There was a pretty funny shoe commercial, during the 90’s, featuring “Grandpa” Shaq, explaining to the youngsters, how the game was, in the “olden days”, before movable baskets. They switch to a shot of a basketball game, where the baskets were robots, that ran around, and jumped up, and down, on the court, just like the players.

Always thought it was a “neat idea” :)


37 posted on 01/11/2015 9:05:34 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ask Wilt Chamberlin.


38 posted on 01/11/2015 9:06:08 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: aquila48

If anyone ever cared to make soccer interesting — they would cut the length of the “pitch” in half.


39 posted on 01/11/2015 9:06:41 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Almost every rule and regulation in basketball is designed to take away the advantage a tall player has.


40 posted on 01/11/2015 9:12:59 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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