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Appeal Court rules that an unborn child is ‘not a person’
Catholic Herald UK ^ | 4 Dec 2014 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 12/04/2014 9:24:05 AM PST by Morgana

Court rejects compensation claim from disabled child whose mother drank heavily during pregnancy

The Court of Appeal today has ruled against a girl who was born disabled because of her mother drinking during pregnancy, ruling that she was only an “organism” in the womb.

The 17-page judgment in the case of “CP” v Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority was handed down by Lord Justices Dyson and Treacey and Lady Justice King at the Royal Courts of Justice.

CP was diagnosed with severe foetal alcohol spectrum disorder at birth, following “grossly excessive” drinking during pregnancy.

However, judges ruled that she was not a legal person in the womb.

Pro-life Conservative MP Fiona Bruce said: “The pro-abortion movement did their best to prejudice this judgment. Their false spin labelled this case as being about criminalising drinking during pregnancy. In fact, it was nothing of the kind. It is a civil case about whether a child should be offered compensation after excessive drinking during pregnancy rendered her disabled for life. The law is hopelessly unclear on the status of the unborn child, and this judgment makes it even more incoherent. The only loser in this case is the child who has been denied compensation to help with her care costs. I find no cause for rejoicing in that.”

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: england; fetalalcohol; prolife; unborn

1 posted on 12/04/2014 9:24:05 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Tissue mass alert.


2 posted on 12/04/2014 9:25:14 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Morgana

The English court may rule as such but U.S. federal courts have no constitutional power to address such a question or make such a determination.


3 posted on 12/04/2014 9:26:57 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Morgana

But, if a pregnant women is murdered, the killer can be charged with a double murder?

This is one fouled up world we live in...


4 posted on 12/04/2014 9:27:02 AM PST by moovova
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To: rktman

Then what’s against them naming a dissenter as a non-person?


5 posted on 12/04/2014 9:28:32 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Morgana

The left is moving to grant personhood to dogs, cats and horses. Also, on the left, they are trying desperately to find justification for giving militant fang-tooth feminazis what they want.


6 posted on 12/04/2014 9:29:45 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Morgana

Yeah. And who is anti-science?

Or even mores, anti-logic and rationality.

This secular thinking in this decision is quite magical.


7 posted on 12/04/2014 9:30:19 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Morgana

And one wonders why the legal profession’s reputation is right down there in the sewer with congresscritters.


8 posted on 12/04/2014 9:33:29 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Morgana
Quote from article: "Prof Jack Scarisbrick, chairman of the charity Life, said: “It seems that the Court of Appeal has based its judgment in this case on the lack of ‘independence’ of the unborn child (of course, referred to here as ‘foetus’ – just to make it seem less human).

So, since "...lack of ‘independence’ of the unborn child..." seems to be the defining factor, can a parent with a layabout 30-something still living in the basement on dole, therefore be 'aborted'? Just following the CoA line of thinking to its logical conclusion. (No, I do not have any kids, nor am I residing at my parents' house.)

9 posted on 12/04/2014 9:37:58 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian ((I once was blind but now I see...))
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To: PapaNew
U.S. federal courts have no constitutional power to address such a question or make such a determination.

The US federal courts exceed their Constitutional authority regularly. Basically they can & do rule however they like on anything they like. I don't see congress making any effort to assert & defend its Constitutional authority against the executive or judicial branches.

535 eunuchs. 1 dead republic.

10 posted on 12/04/2014 9:45:55 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Morgana

if that’s true then killing a pregnant woman can’t have two murder charges against the killer.


11 posted on 12/04/2014 9:49:20 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Anytime a rational person follows liberal reasoning out to a logical conclusion, the result is abject absurdity.

And when one points this out to a Liberal, the response is usually irrational and emotional.


12 posted on 12/04/2014 9:49:29 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Morgana

13 posted on 12/04/2014 9:59:50 AM PST by PLD
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To: Morgana

I just had an image of these judges entering a room full of little children sitting at desks like in a Begnini movie and the judges having to justify their decision that aborted children are not people.


14 posted on 12/04/2014 10:11:22 AM PST by firebrand
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To: jsanders2001
Then what’s against them naming a dissenter as a non-person?

Or a Jew? Or a tea party member? Or a ????
First they dehumanize then they euthanize. At least that’s how the national socialist did it when they were in power a few years back.

15 posted on 12/04/2014 10:11:30 AM PST by DaveyB
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To: Morgana

There have been times in the past that a woman killed by being shot in the abdomen while pregnant was double homicide.


16 posted on 12/04/2014 10:18:32 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Morgana

I find this argument a little easier to take because at least it is consistent and genuine. A mass inside a mother’s womb is not a person. With that we can have an argument.

It is a better response than “what about the woman’s body and rights”, or “we will go back to back alley abortions”. I find those arguments dishonest.

I fully believe the fetus IS a person and can’t see how honest people can say otherwise.


17 posted on 12/04/2014 10:39:57 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: PLD

Touching picture. Makes me think about my two youngest children, that not long ago they were helpless like that, depending on us to bring them safely to the world.


18 posted on 12/04/2014 10:41:33 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Morgana

The very last thing the pro-abortion bunch want is for a judge to rule that an unborn child is a person because then that person would have rights.


19 posted on 12/04/2014 11:06:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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