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Obama Administration Signs United Nations Arms Trade Treaty
NRA-ILA ^ | September 25, 2013 | NRA

Posted on 12/02/2014 7:29:03 AM PST by SisterK

Fairfax, Va. – Today, Secretary of State John Kerry signed the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty on behalf of the Obama administration. The National Rifle Association strongly opposes this treaty, which is a clear violation of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

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Just a reminder. Treaty goes into effect Christmas Eve.
1 posted on 12/02/2014 7:29:03 AM PST by SisterK
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To: SisterK

Doesn’t go “into effect” until is has been ratified by 2/3 of the Senate.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 7:30:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

A completely unlawful act, approved by a lawless administration.


3 posted on 12/02/2014 7:31:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Cue the Blue Helmet target......


4 posted on 12/02/2014 7:31:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SisterK
Doesn't mean jack shi!. King Obama is a fool. Kick the UN out of the US and drop our membership including funds.
5 posted on 12/02/2014 7:31:49 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Gaffer

I hope that you are correct. I did not know that “obligations” to the UN are the same as treaties with foreign countries.


6 posted on 12/02/2014 7:33:08 AM PST by SisterK
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

A completely unlawful act, approved by a lawless administration.

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...and aided by a complicit and corrupt media.


7 posted on 12/02/2014 7:33:35 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

And more than a year old


8 posted on 12/02/2014 7:35:45 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Gaffer

If not ratified Obama will just rely on executive agencies to issue “rulings” to achieve the same ends.


9 posted on 12/02/2014 7:36:17 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Gaffer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2907317/posts

some debate on whether congress has to ratify UN treaties


10 posted on 12/02/2014 7:37:03 AM PST by SisterK
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To: SisterK

A treaty is a treaty. The US Constitution has strict requirements for passage that requires Senate ratification. If it’s not a Treaty then it cannot be enforced if it violates other Constitutional guarantees.


11 posted on 12/02/2014 7:37:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SisterK

How does the President or SoS “sign” a treaty that has not been previously ratified by the Senate? Since when do we “sign” a treaty and then see if the Senate will ratify it? Does John F’n Kerry carry a bottle of White Out back to the UN to blot out his signature?

This seems to affect the importation of Firearms to America. You’d be surprised how many of our firearms are manufactured outside the US (maybe you wouldn’t).


12 posted on 12/02/2014 7:37:54 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (POTUS shall now be referred to as POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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To: thackney

I understand that it is an old article. It comes to my attention because it goes into effect three weeks from now.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 7:38:56 AM PST by SisterK
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To: SisterK

Like a said, if it is a treaty, it has to be ratified. Agreements, accords, pacts, etc. are NOT treaties and are as only enforceable as far as the current President’s desire, and that is debatable. These hokum specious arguments are just diversion to get you to believe he can do this without ratification.


14 posted on 12/02/2014 7:39:31 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Starboard

The rulings do not have the Constitution behind them. The only thing that can trump Constitutional guarantees are ratified treaties, per the Constitution.

Just let them come try to get my guns on a frigging ruling.


15 posted on 12/02/2014 7:40:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SisterK

Another act of treason.


16 posted on 12/02/2014 7:41:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Gaffer

Correct.. been done this road many times and no treaty can trump the Constitution.


17 posted on 12/02/2014 7:43:05 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Gaffer

Doesn’t go “into effect” until is has been ratified by 2/3 of the Senate.

Exactly! And I will make sure my Senators know that I oppose this one.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 7:43:12 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: SisterK

In March 2013 a finished version of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) was finally presented to the U.N. General Assembly, and that body approved the treaty by a vote 154 to 3 (with 23 abstentions) on 2 April 2013. The U.S. was one of the member nations voting in the General Assembly to approve the treaty; only Iran, North Korea, and Syria voted against it.

The treaty was finally signed by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry in September 2013, but the treaty still requires ratification by fifty U.N. signatories before it goes into effect (so far only seven nations have committed to that step), and it still requires approval by the U.S. Senate before the United States commits to its terms.


19 posted on 12/02/2014 7:44:29 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Gaffer

1 pray that you are correct
current admin leaves me paranoid


20 posted on 12/02/2014 7:46:51 AM PST by SisterK
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