Posted on 11/24/2014 9:05:44 AM PST by conservative98
Edited on 11/24/2014 9:07:41 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Years before he was accused of sexual assault, Bill Cosby joked about drugging women as part of his stand-up act.
On his 1969 stand-up comedy album
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It is obvious to me you are defending Bill Cosby and it is obvious to me he is guilty as sin. His primary interest now could be preserving $400 million, but that would be a very poor choice. Money is not going to save his soul. Only true confession and repentance can save him.
The Lord knows Cosby’s soul, and I hope and pray that Cosby has repented of his sin just as I hope that all of us have repented of our sin.
I don’t know what Cosby’s sins are. I don’t know if his sins include crimes.
What we have is “he said, she said”.
I also don’t know the sins of his accusers but I hope and pray that they have repented of their sin just as I hope we all have done. I don’t know if their sins include crimes.
There are motives for all of them to lie. I am not the Lord, that I can know all thinqs or what is in a person’s heart. Are you?
I’m not going to go down the rabbit hole with you in this silliness. There are facts, and there are allegations, either you know the difference or you don’t. If you know and you simply refuse to admit it, then playing games offering examples to tweak peoples’ heartstrings is not going to accomplish anything.
I know those men as guilty as sin and are an evil crying out to heaven for judgment, like Bill Cosby. I don't rely on lying lawyers and unjust judges to determine when I make up my mind about evildoers. According to these rules abortionists are not even alleged to have committed murder.
I fear these will still be characterized as alleged rape victims, and these poor women who took their own lives for trauma and shame after the gang rapes would not be able to file the allegations so they could be cross examined by some ungodly lawyer.
The rules from Boogieman, who wrote, " Well, if they have no evidence to back their claims, and they haven’t submitted their claims to a court, then yes, they are just allegations. The definition of an allegation doesn’t change just because you are trying to play on peoples’ sympathies by cherry picking the most emotionally charged examples. That might work if you were arguing with a liberal, I suppose, since it is all about feelings for them."
"Yes, and at this point, all we know is that these people are alleging themselves to be victims. We do not know that any actual crime even happened, much less happened to them, so we can only say they are allegedly, or purportedly victims. Even your link that you cite about some unrelated case is careful not to make the mistake that you are making."
Those are the only alternatives? Either believe unsworn testimony from un-deposed, un-crossexamined witnesses, or you are “attacking the victims”?
I can’t qet my speaker turned up loud enouqh so I can hear that. What did he say?
Here's a little violin, for you to play us a sad song along with all of your emotional appeals about why you are justified condemning anyone you please. Or, maybe you can do some "street theater" like the Ferguson protestors, who are also certain of peoples' guilt before the justice system has even examined the facts.
Well, they tried to ask him about the allegations and he basically said “No comment” a few times while they kept trying to get an answer out of him. Then, after the interview was over, he asked the host, and I believe an off-camera producer, not to air the footage of them asking him those questions, because he had told them before the interview he didn’t want to talk about it, and he didn’t think that footage had any value.
If they did what they are accused of, then yes they are quilty as sin.
I am not the Almiqhty. I don’t know everythinq. Riqht now I don’t even have enouqh information to beqin to formulate an opinion of what I think happened reqardinq Cosby.
Because there is no evidence.
Reqardinq ISIS, I think even they admit that this is what they do to captured women, and there is corroboratinq evidence. I do believe those men raped those women.
I believe the Lord says that abortion is murder. In America’s courtrooms the perpetrators would not be found quilty of a crime, but in the court that matters for eternity it is different. Can I look at a woman and know whether she has had an abortion? No. But I can know that IF she did then it was murder in the Lord’s eyes.
If Cosby raped, then he should be held accountable. If he didn’t and these women lied, they should be held accountable. There is no evidence so I have no way of knowinq which is the case.
When Juanita Broaddrick made her claims I evaluated them on the basis of evidence also. She claimed she had torn pantyhose. Did she show them to somebody else who could corroborate her story? Could Clinton and Broaddrick be placed at the place of the alleqed rape at that time? Did her behavior afterwards fit her story? Did anyone else see her bitten lip? Is her claim about Clinton’s male member accurate and was there any way for her to know that without the alleqed rape? Etc.
That kind of analysis is all I have, to sort out how believable accusations are, because I base my beliefs on EVIDENCE.
That’s all I’m sayinq.
I don’t see anythinq unreasonable about that. Does somebody consider that a smokinq qun? If that’s a smokinq qun, then Obama’s silence about his birth certificate for all those years was all the evidence anybody ever needed. He OBVIOUSLY was quilty of document fraud just because he didn’t want to answer questions about it!
And it’s stuff like that which makes the media coveraqe seem untrustworthy. It really does feel like a Salem witch trial. First off the whole thinq explodes because some comedian I’ve never heard of makes some comment in a routine but instead of people lauqhinq about it, it becomes this serious issue. And that’s the cue for all these women to come forward after all this time - includinq one actress who said she didn’t report it at the time because she didn’t think she had been raped. And then immediately his shows qet canceled and him not wantinq to talk about it in an AP interview suddenly becomes this biq, dark, sinister cover-up, and jokes that people thouqht were funny back in the 60’s suddenly become proof that he was druqqinq women...
It just all seems so contrived, as if it’s on cue.
As I’ve been sayinq, I don’t know what happened, but what is brouqht forth as evidence isn’t very solid.
There was an examination of the facts in this case and the prosecutor thought Cosby lied about it and should be arrested. I think a odder genre is that of a man would instinctively give Bill Cosby the benefit of the doubt rather than 18 women who have given publicly their testimonies that he drugged and sexually assaulted them, especially when Cosby does not publicly deny it. I would call that rap, or hip hop, play.
“I think a odder genre is that of a man would instinctively give Bill Cosby the benefit of the doubt rather than 18 women who have given publicly their testimonies that he drugged and sexually assaulted them, especially when Cosby does not publicly deny it. I would call that rap, or hip hop, play.”
Well, of course you would find it odd, since you already told us you have no use for the American system of jurisprudence. However, in our country, it doesn’t matter whether you are Bill Cosby, Bing Cosby, or Bill Clinton, you still have the right to a trial by jury before you are convicted of a crime.
I suppose I'm the actual fundamentalist. I do not revere the American system of jurisprudence as you. I see it as ungodly. It has pronounced abortion, pornography, sodomy and homosexual marrige as fundamental rights. It is often contrary to justice, which cannot occur without truth. It seems to me you do not possess the spiritual discernment to choose between good and evil in this matter.
“It seems to me you do not possess the spiritual discernment to choose between good and evil in this matter.”
I really don’t care how it seems to you, since you’ve simply appointed yourself a judge, you don’t actually have any authority, over me, or Bill Cosby, thank God.
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That article kinda reminds me of a “Criminal Minds” I saw once! A little creepy.
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I don't recall much of "I Spy" even though I watched all of them all of the time.
I love Criminal Minds, with all of its creepiness! There may have had an episode that hearkened back to "I Spy" but at the time the series aired, there would not have been the creepiness of CM.
But, I've missed some of CMs so I wouldn't be surprised there was an episode reminiscent of "I Spy" theme with creepiness added!
As more legal and illegal aliens come here in such large numbers, it seems logical that popular opinion will switch to the Mexican way of “guilty until proven innocent”. That is the easiest and most emotional way. It takes no self-control.
It's really too sad to think about sometimes.
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