Posted on 11/23/2014 2:03:48 AM PST by EinNYC
The principal of East Side Community HS invited the New York Civil Liberties Union to give a two-day training session last week on interacting with police. The 450 kids were coached on staying calm during NYPD encounters and given a “What To Do If You’re Stopped By The Police” pamphlet.
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the Chris rock video is probably more informative then what they will be taught.
...most realistic....comedy is funny - but this is the truth - and most inner city kids will only see it as such...then again, the ones I dealt with when I was in L.E. knew exactly what to do and how to do it immediately...street smart!
Maybe more police public affairs work would be a good idea, with everyone doing rotations. Is the situation in big cities really beyond that?
You are wrong.
The police take advantage of kids. They are always stopping and hassling kids.
I taught kids to say over and over to the police “I have nothing to say” which gives them something to say without incriminating themselves. Also, “I do not consent to that search.”
Kids and most people do not know that cops are permitted and do lie in their interactions with the people.
They hide other cops behind trees and bushes so you don’t know more than one is there.
Never open your door to a cop. He will stick his foot in the door. Ask the cop for his card and tell him you will call if you have any information for him.
Stay calm. Ask for your lawyer. Zip your lips.
Cops don’t seem to serve much anymore, they are out to get young people and cause hassles for parents. Cops used to pour out kids’ alcohol in the past, now they ruin a kid’s future by giving them a minor in possession charge.
Van Jones has written curriculum about this sort of thing.
Considering the 12 year old with a BB gun who just got shot by a cop, this might not be a bad idea.
No one has to train children or adults for that matter to hate police. The police are doing a good of that on their own.
Chris Rock nailed it with that video.Excellent advice for kids of *all* races.Then Gentle Giant (Patent Pending) obviously missed lesson #1...*never* attempt to take a policeman’s firearm from him.
Way to set these kids up for an arrest. The fact is, if I stop someone, there is usually “reasonable suspicion that a crime is, has, or is about to be committed.” Otherwise I wouldn’t be stopping them. If that is the case, and I find reason to issue a summons, they must show ID. If they don’t, they go to the magistrates office in jail until they give up the information so a summons can be properly issued. I am an LEO. No I can’t run around demanding to see your papers. But under the right set of circumstances...I can... I deal with college students where I am at all the time and they all are told the same thing...then they get in trouble when they don’t identify themselves in situations arise that demand they need to. My 2cents
Agree with most of what you say, except the part about minor in possession charges ruining a kid’s future. My own criminal record consists of two MIPs from 1973 and 1974, but I’m not aware that they ever kept me from a job or admission to college. I took care of any future-ruining all by myself.
Here’s a good, real life, practical example they could use.
If you’re walking down the middle of a street intended for vehicle traffic, and a cop comes along a tells you to move from the street to the sidewalk, just do what the cop says and go on about your business.
Sheesh as a parent who lived through it, the hassle, the cost, the time, I was livid at the police, but had no idea minor in possession charges occurred int the 70s.
I sympathize with your lividity, but I’m curious what your basis is for expecting that the cops wouldn’t arrest your child for committing a crime.
Whether MIP should be classified as a crime is of course another question entirely.
As s that of whether we should re-examine the “permanent record” issue. IMO there should be a mechanism in place for potentially removing black marks on the record if a person messes up but then straightens up.
The primary effect of the “permanent record” is to demoralize the person and remove incentive for him to try to do better.
“Van Jones has written curriculum about this sort of thing.”
Good. I don’t like Van Jones, but there needs to be a curriculum and kids need to be advised. When I was little I was taught to ask the police if I needed help. Now I advise people not to call the police unless they are ready for someone to be arrested or worse.
Well, fellow former military lawyers and I categorize it as criminalizing teenage behavior. We really challenged the Police Chief when he came to speak at one of our meetings. I know police get this all the time, but there is some truth to it, why aren’t you spending your time on real crime as opposed to hassling kids?
“The primary effect of the “permanent record” is to demoralize the person and remove incentive for him to try to do better.”
Yes, I agree.
That is hilarious! Chris Rock would be funny without the four mouth, but it is what it is.
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