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Virginia Voting Machines
Self | 11/4/2014 | Self

Posted on 11/04/2014 8:35:02 AM PST by fruser1

Just voted in Fairfax county.

Machine takes ballot and simply indicates that I voted.

It doesn't provide any indication of how it actually scanned my ballot so as far as I know, I could've just voted for Dr.Doolittle.

Sounds like good potential for electronic voting fraud here.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; fairfaxcounty; vanity; virginia; voterfraud; votingmachines
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To: arthurus

See my reply-post #8 above. If they actually published all electronic votes, you could verify it was done correctly.

Still doesn’t deal w/individual voter fraud probs you describe though.


21 posted on 11/04/2014 9:09:14 AM PST by fruser1
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To: KoRn

Touch screen machines cannot be trusted at all if there is no paper record of the vote. Their programming can show a proper result even as a different vote is actually recorded. It all depends on the techie who programmed it. The “wrong” votes showing up on the screen are oversights or less than complete competence on the part of the programmer.


22 posted on 11/04/2014 9:11:06 AM PST by arthurus
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To: fruser1

http://hamptonroads.com/2014/11/voting-irregularities-reported-virginia-beach


23 posted on 11/04/2014 9:18:30 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: fruser1

Same here in Raleigh.
Electronic machines should have to spit out a hard copy of the vote a least.

What’s purported to be the Stalin quote?
‘It’s not how you vote it’s how the votes are counted’.

I’ve gotten very jaded pertaining to how the election system has been bastardized.


24 posted on 11/04/2014 9:22:05 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: KoRn

You are using pure electronic voting. It gives you confirmation for comfort only-An illusion. But there is no way for you to know how your vote actually counted if errors in software or fraud is occurring. There is no way to go back and individually count the votes again.

The guy who wrote this post is using a system with a paper ballot such as pencil in the circle. That ballot is then fed into a machine to be read, counted or tabulated. Again there is no way to prove how the ballot was read. In that case you don’t even get the illusion of a “Comfort” confirmation. What you do get is the paper ballot which could be used for a manual recount. However the chance of that manual recount ever happening is slim to none. And of course the dems will start looking for eraser marks if such a recount ever happens. And of course piles of uncounted ballots will suddenly appear.


25 posted on 11/04/2014 9:28:21 AM PST by Revel
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To: fruser1
Say you’re assigned a number when you get there. Something like a polling place number concatenated w/a sequential number.
Have them publish all results online so you can not only check how your vote was counted but you can tabulate the votes yourself.

I like it. And..
You are assigned a unique number already. There's no such thing as a 'secret ballot'.
The pundits can tell you how many white men over 50 voted for Obama or any other statistic. Only way they could get that info is to know who voted for whom.

Anyway, there has got to be a way for a voter to see how their vote was counted.

26 posted on 11/04/2014 9:33:01 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: fruser1

Could there be some way to inform these morons rigging this election that the ballot box is the only thing keeping us from having to use the NEXT box on the list??


27 posted on 11/04/2014 9:34:39 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote fraud solution: Stake, Rope, Sugar and Bullet Ants.)
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To: fruser1

If. They don’t.


28 posted on 11/04/2014 9:35:36 AM PST by arthurus
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To: fruser1

It could come to bullets, I think, except that middle classes don’t revolt. They are too busy producing goods and services and maintaining their families. When the middle class ceases to be, which is on the Democrat/Socialist/Moslem agenda, then, if the middle class still has its guns, it might be different.


29 posted on 11/04/2014 9:39:01 AM PST by arthurus
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To: fruser1

Real possibility Obama never won Virginia or the dems in the last voting. Doesnt make sense whats going on in the state.


30 posted on 11/04/2014 9:44:49 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: fruser1

That would allow for voter coercion/intimidation, defeating the entire purpose of a secret ballot.


31 posted on 11/04/2014 9:45:34 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Vinnie
The pundits can tell you how many white men over 50 voted for Obama or any other statistic. Only way they could get that info is to know who voted for whom.

That information is based on exit polling, not the actual ballots.

Anyway, there has got to be a way for a voter to see how their vote was counted.

The problem is, pretty much any way that would allow a voter to see how their particular vote was counted would allow anyone else to see how that voter's particular vote was counted. Which would open the door to massive voter intimidation and coercion.

32 posted on 11/04/2014 9:47:18 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: fruser1
Understand from prior posting that the program of some of the Virginia machines has shown corruption. Switch votes automatic from R to D. Not sure all machine but highly suspect.
33 posted on 11/04/2014 9:47:42 AM PST by Logical me
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To: drypowder

Public Square Hanging...It is that important...


34 posted on 11/04/2014 9:47:51 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

” voter coercion/intimidation”

If your number is simply a polling place number concatenated w/a sequential number (meaning first guy at that poll is #1), your anonymity is maintained.

They should only publish the assigned number w/the votes. Not keep track of, or publish, who exactly got what number.

It’d therefore be up to the voter to tell other folks what their number was.


35 posted on 11/04/2014 9:50:15 AM PST by fruser1
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To: All

We we type, Fairfax and Arlington counties are preparing trunks filled with ballots to position near close precincts.


36 posted on 11/04/2014 9:52:01 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“voter coercion/intimidation”

To make clear:

You’re not assigned a number in advance of the election. You get it at the polling place if and when you show up. Like taking a number at the deli counter.


37 posted on 11/04/2014 9:52:19 AM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1
It’d therefore be up to the voter to tell other folks what their number was.

That's the weakness, right there. If someone is going to go so far as to coerce or indimidate someone into voting in a particular way, forcing the voter to divulge their identification number is hardly going to be much of an obstacle.

38 posted on 11/04/2014 9:53:01 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“voter to divulge their identification number is hardly going to be much of an obstacle”

This can be averted by downloading the data and picking a number that voted the way the intimidator wanted.

Voter intimidation is also a crime that the victim can report.

It’d still be worth it to me to ensure the integrity of the election, which is what I think this would do.


39 posted on 11/04/2014 9:57:10 AM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1
You’re not assigned a number in advance of the election. You get it at the polling place if and when you show up. Like taking a number at the deli counter.

I understand that. Regardless of when it is provided, the number would still be a number that someone could force you to divulge, and then use to verify that you voted in a particular way.

As a hypothetical example (perhaps an extreme one) of voter coercion/intimidation - suppose someone blackmails you by threatening to publicly release some sort of incriminating information if you do not vote for Candidate X in the next election. If the system you propose is implemented, then the blackmailer could easily use your unique voter ID, then look up your vote to confirm that you voted for Candidate X. True, you would need to provide them with your assigned voter ID number after you've voted, but they could coerce you into doing so with the same blackmail that they are using to coerce you into voting.

40 posted on 11/04/2014 9:59:54 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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