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Trekonomics: Is Star Trek Really “Anti-Libertarian”?
The Federalist ^ | October 22, 2014 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 10/23/2014 6:11:58 AM PDT by C19fan

Reason‘s Nick Gillespie recently posted a list of the five most anti-libertarian television shows ever, and there’s a serious error. Actually, there are two serious errors. The first, larger error is that Reason put together a list of the five best libertarian TV shows, and they left off “Firefly,” which simply boggles the mind.

The smaller error is that Gillespie names “Star Trek” among the anti-libertarian shows. Even worse is the reason he gives: “The Starship Enterprise’s adventures throughout the galaxy are supposedly guided by the Federation’s ‘prime directive,’ which forbids humans from intervening in the domestic affairs of the planets they visit. And yet…Captain James T. Kirk is mucking around with every civilization from here to the Romulan Neutral Zone like LBJ on Viagra.”

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: finalfrontier; libertarian; star; startrek; trek
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To: MrEdd

Are you honorable, MrEdd?


61 posted on 10/23/2014 9:51:29 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu
Nah. He's a mouthy bast'd that just called me a pedophile-defender.

His mouth is writing checks his a** can't cash.

62 posted on 10/23/2014 10:08:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: Lazamataz
I will defend my honor with physical force if required.

Agreed.

And remember....Maximum application of violence. Don't hold back...or don't square off.

I had posted my first reply to your #38 before reading down thread. After I did post, I read the rest of the exchange. That's when I said, "Whoa. Laz is pissed. Head for the hills. I'm out."

63 posted on 10/23/2014 10:32:05 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (To be fair, it's not part of the procedure to screw it up, so I didn't have instructions to undo it.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Agreed. And remember....Maximum application of violence. Don't hold back...or don't square off.

I'm not real experienced at fighting, but I do have a few interesting stories.

I was in Atlanta, in a place called the Clairmont Lodge. It was a seedy campus of crappy motel-like apartment rooms. It was also a den of crack-dealing and prostitution.

Well, I was using back then. I had a few people in my room, including one guy called DownLow (street name). Some chicks came by and I was like, COOL, Ima get laid now. We were all doing hard drugs. So, I decide DownLow's gotta go (along with any other men) so I can party and screw.

Well, Downlow bucks up on me. This is MY room, though. It is MY castle. So Downlow goes for a machete I keep in there, and I -LITERALLY- saw red. It was like a red film slowly descended over my eyes.

And then I do not remember what happened. When I 'came to', Downlow was out of the room and people were looking at me in horror.

They said I tossed Downlow around the room like a rag-doll. The guy was 265 lbs of muscle, and he was the Heavy (the enforcer) for the biggest drug dealer in Clairmont Lodge. They said he went against the wall, the floor, another wall, out the door, and they had to all grab me and keep me from throwing him off a third-story railing and killing him.

LOL! I wish I could tell you what fancy martial arts moves I used. I just don't remember. Literally.

Well, a day later, J-Run (the big drug dealer) comes up to me. I'm thinkin "Aw crap. He's pissed I beat his Heavy. I'm gonna catch a bullet." But he doesn't want that. He lost his Heavy. He wanted me to take the job. LOL!

I had posted my first reply to your #38 before reading down thread. After I did post, I read the rest of the exchange. That's when I said, "Whoa. Laz is pissed. Head for the hills. I'm out."

I aint Billy Badass, but I do tell people, if you are going to turn on the machine, make sure it has an off-switch first. :)

64 posted on 10/23/2014 10:55:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: mikrofon
Under Obama's sociofascism, the adage would be more like- "Live Not-so-long & P**s-poor."

ALL TRUE, sad to say.

The DEMOCRATS was Americans to suckle off the taxpayer give-away nipple forever, thus insuring Democrat presidents and Congress until WE become Liberia.

And NO, we AREN'T Liberia now or already, no matter how deep the pessimism cuts. And if you think SO then you haven't SEEN, heard or SMELLED real poverty, government corruption and utter despair in a country.

65 posted on 10/23/2014 12:14:46 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: katana
Not sure how this went from discussing whether the Federation in Star Trek was a Fascist authoritarian state or utopia of individual liberty, to is or is not the Libertarian Party a squalid den of pedophiles. I am embarrassed that I seem to have helped it happen.

FReepers DO meander, don't they?
Me too, sometimes.

66 posted on 10/23/2014 12:16:05 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: MrEdd
Do my questions of honor and bravery make you uncomfortable?

Are you a coward MrEdd?

67 posted on 10/23/2014 1:14:17 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Well, not all did. There were episodes with a parlimentary system, some republics, some democracies, etc.


68 posted on 10/23/2014 1:24:21 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The GOPe has to EARN my support and not blame me for their loss.)
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To: MrEdd
Texas has no cowardly sons.

Where are you really from MrEdd?

69 posted on 10/23/2014 1:24:53 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: treetopsandroofs

#10 and Roddenberry never turned down a penny he was making from the series.


70 posted on 10/23/2014 1:56:29 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Lazamataz
It was like a red film slowly descended over my eyes.

Iiiinteresting. My dad was like that. He used to call it a 'Shit Fit'. He never laid a hand on me or any of my siblings or my mom. He was a stand up guy from the Greatest Generation and I miss him a lot.

But he was not a man to be trifled with. I'd seen it a couple of times. Fortunately, I didn't inherit that trait. I tend to get really focused and can decide an appropriate course of action quickly. But, I'm a defensive tackle size guy, so I don't get hassled. Much.

71 posted on 10/23/2014 4:02:50 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (To be fair, it's not part of the procedure to screw it up, so I didn't have instructions to undo it.)
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To: Fledermaus
Well, not all did.

Ok. Majority then. With a ruling Council.

72 posted on 10/23/2014 4:04:40 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (To be fair, it's not part of the procedure to screw it up, so I didn't have instructions to undo it.)
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To: C19fan
Deep Space Nine wasn't a Roddenberry project and contradicted the spirit of the original series.

The original series, though, was in line with the space program of the 60s. Private enterprise stopped somewhere in the stratosphere or mesosphere, and Roddenberry saw that as the model for the future. It was logical for him to conclude that in frontier societies, government and the military predominate over private interests and private enterprises.

Now of course, that's not entirely correct. Whether we're talking Roman Britain or British India or the Old West, traders and tradesmen followed where pioneers and soldiers went. Deep Space Nine may have been an attempt to take that part of history into account.

73 posted on 10/23/2014 4:12:28 PM PDT by x
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yeah, I had not experienced it before, and I have not experienced it since. It actually scared me, because I completely blacked out until it was over .... and the other people told me that if they had not intervened, I would have pitched him over the 3-story-high railing. In that case, I'd be -- right now -- doing time for murder.

I went totally feral. It is interesting to know that I am capable of that, but also scary.

74 posted on 10/23/2014 4:26:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: MrEdd; Lazamataz
I have asked you of bravery. No response.

I have asked you of honor. No response.

I have asked you of native birth. No response.

I have asked you of LGBT affiliation. No response.

You have recklessly accused the truest of conservatives of being child molesters.

Unlike your kind, we consider that a vile insult. But of course, that is how you meant it.

Congratulations. The insult is fully acknowledged.

Your silence is educational and absolute. We have learned:

You are without bravery. You are without honor. You are not a native born son of Texas. You are without, at most, two of the LGBT acronyms.

We have also learned that you are eagerly willing to bare false witness against your neighbor. IE: you are an atheist.

I sincerely offer you a merciful deal.

Come to the Texas event. Meet with Laz and me. Allow me to meet your cartoonish insult with real Texan hospitality. I will meet your cowardice with BBQ. I will meet your atheism with Christian welcome. I will meet your insult with shared rum.

As deeply as you have insulted me, I will convince Laz to not nail your prissy foot to a tree.

Let us meet. Allow me to show this mercy to you who despise me.

Are you brave MrEdd? Are you honorable MrEdd? Are you willing to bare false witness MrEdd? Are you a coward MrEdd? Are you willing to meet me before Laz MrEd?

If it is absolutely true that you are a coward, do NOT reply to any of Laz,s challenges, or any of my invitations.

Meet with us, and share run. We can speak of Pelosi and laugh this off. Admit the vile, childish insult, apologize to Laz and too me.

75 posted on 10/23/2014 5:45:11 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: MrEdd
You have meddled with the forces of nature MrEdd.

And, you must atone.

76 posted on 10/23/2014 5:52:37 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: Lazamataz
I went totally feral. It is interesting to know that I am capable of that, but also scary.

It must be like walking around feeling like the real life Bruce Banner.

77 posted on 10/23/2014 6:00:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (To be fair, it's not part of the procedure to screw it up, so I didn't have instructions to undo it.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It is good self-knowledge, but odd to possess. It is one of the things that convinces me I would survive an apocalypse. Travis McGee and I have talked at length and one thing we agree upon: My former life in the drug world has made me unusually resilient and capable. You have to be on your top game to survive that world.


78 posted on 10/23/2014 6:06:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: Lazamataz
Indeed. I only hope that if/when what Matthew writes of comes, I will measure up. I have family assets who depend on me to be the bulwark.

I know that you, Travis and JRandom will do just fine.

79 posted on 10/23/2014 6:27:41 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (To be fair, it's not part of the procedure to screw it up, so I didn't have instructions to undo it.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Oh yeah, the ruling councils. Tons of them.


80 posted on 10/24/2014 12:44:55 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The GOPe has to EARN my support and not blame me for their loss.)
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