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Ray Rice filing grievance against Ravens for dismissal, per report
Yahoo ^ | 10/22/14 | Jay Busbee

Posted on 10/22/2014 12:14:06 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

In the wake of the outrage comes the lawyers. Pro Football Talk is reporting that former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice has filed a grievance against the team for cutting him in September.

First, a refresher: In February, Rice got into an altercation with his then-fiancee (now wife) in an Atlantic City elevator, striking her and knocking her unconscious. He was suspended for two games by the NFL in July; two months later, when tape of the actual striking surfaced, Rice was suspended indefinitely by the league and cut by the Ravens.

Now, Rice is apparently protesting the Ravens' decision to cut him, on the basis that the NFL's collective bargaining agreement only permits for one punishment per infraction. This is not an insignifcant issue; while this puts the NFL Players' Association in the position of having to defend someone whose conduct was reprehensible, the larger point stands. If the NFL and teams can continue to double-dip in terms of punishment based on this precedent, the system is open to abuse.

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Saw this coming. The NFL equivalent of double jeopardy. He's got a gripe, but who's going to come near this guy?
1 posted on 10/22/2014 12:14:06 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

He’s a pig to be sure, but you are spot on It is the NFL’s double jeopardy. Bunch of incompetents run that place.


2 posted on 10/22/2014 12:17:20 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Some team who is in the hunt for the playoffs and has a running back go down with an injury will take a flyer on him.


3 posted on 10/22/2014 12:20:49 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Make him wear a pink uniform- Oh,wait!


4 posted on 10/22/2014 12:23:13 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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Ray Rice filing grievance....

Is it Festivus already?

5 posted on 10/22/2014 12:24:15 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

And it’s pretty much an open and shut case, Rice will win.


6 posted on 10/22/2014 12:24:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Or a scarlet letter.


7 posted on 10/22/2014 12:29:03 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

How come none of the articles ever tell the reader that She was Attacking Him when he defended himself, albeit with a little too much force??


8 posted on 10/22/2014 12:29:04 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: dfwgator

Agree; Rice will win in a slam dunk. The NFL knows it. When the NIL loses; Goodell can claim he tried, but evil arbitrator ruled.against them.

Goodell doesn’t care about the outcome of this action; he’s just trying to cover his ass.


9 posted on 10/22/2014 12:30:50 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Looks more like triple jeopardy. First the two game suspension, then the indefinite suspension, then he was cut by the Ravens.


10 posted on 10/22/2014 12:31:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
double jeopardy

Yep.

5.56mm

11 posted on 10/22/2014 12:34:09 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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It’s not double jeopardy at all. He’s been suspended by the league and the team has declared that if he gets unsuspended then he’s a free agent they don’t want him. Falcons did the same thing with Vick, Pats did the same with Hernandez. The employment situation of players is multilayer-ed, with multiple people able to punish them. It’s like working for a temp agency, both the agency AND the people paying the agency can decide individually or together they don’t want you around anymore.


12 posted on 10/22/2014 12:42:52 PM PDT by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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The first half of your sentence is right. But Rice will lose. Private organizations are under no form of compulsion against layered punishment. Lots of guys get punished by their team and the league, for big PR hits like this it’s basically the standard, teams often don’t want players that draw that kind of fire. Pacman Jones got cut by the Titans while suspended by the league, Rice has got nothing to stand on.


13 posted on 10/22/2014 12:49:41 PM PDT by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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That’s the AIRING of grievances......

I got a lot of problems with you people, and now you’re going to hear about them!


14 posted on 10/22/2014 12:55:04 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: discostu
It really depends on the CBA.

Rice's contention is that the league imposed a suspension of six games, then imposed a second punishment of an indefinite suspension.

And according to Rice's lawyers, the league is only allowed to impose one punishment per infraction.

It's not the punishment that is the issue so much than the second punishment that followed the first.

15 posted on 10/22/2014 12:55:15 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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They suspended him for 2 games, then reacted to the @$## storm and increased it to indefinite, but the league changes suspension lengths all the time. Usually shorter, but changes are pretty standard. It’s all still one punishment.


16 posted on 10/22/2014 12:58:55 PM PDT by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

This POS is no man.....no real man hits a woman (any woman) in the face with a full out shot


17 posted on 10/22/2014 1:03:40 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: eyeamok

real men do not hit women .....ever

were you raised by wolves?


18 posted on 10/22/2014 1:04:30 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: discostu
Again, it depends on the language of the CBA, and I don't have any specific insight to that.

It seems that when suspensions are changed, it's because of an appeal. I'm not sure if such a thing happened yet in Rice's case.

Regardless, Rice will have a chance to make his case, and if the NFL violated the CBA, Rice could prevail.

19 posted on 10/22/2014 1:05:37 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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That’s the AIRING of grievances......

I sit corrected..,

I got a lot of problems with you people

That's exactly what I heard when I wrote my OP. In Frank's voice, of course.

20 posted on 10/22/2014 1:05:37 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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