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Math is on life support. Can we save it?
American Thinker ^ | October 21, 2014 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 10/21/2014 11:03:48 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

When is the wrong answer the right answer? Now. Today.

Reality alert: we have entered an alternative universe, thanks to Common Core. As people once scorned wrong answers, we will now learn to scorn right answers. Answer-getting (that’s the new jargon) will be held up for contempt, and slowly eliminated. That’s the plan.

This is not marginal nonsense. No, it is already mainstream nonsense. Phil Daro is one of the three principal writers of the Common Core Mathematics Standards. A 17-minute video about his ideas is promoted this way: “Phil Daro goes into detail on the problems of ‘Answer-getting,’ one of the practices that the new Common Core Standards intend to greatly reduce.”

As Phil Daro himself asks, “Are You Teaching Mathematics or Answer-Getting Strategies?” What sort of fool would think these were the same thing? No, they are now opposites.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: commoncore; math
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To: right-wing agnostic
Math is on life support.
As it should be. Can't tell you how many times my life has been changed because I was taught Y=MX+B ~or~ C2=A2+B2.
Actually I can tell you. None.
41 posted on 10/21/2014 12:04:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Cold Heart

“The method was designed so the student could not get help from the parent.”

uh... this may be the key to Common Core, right there...


42 posted on 10/21/2014 12:06:18 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: right-wing agnostic
The money quotes:

"If the Common Core juggernaut can impose answer-avoiding, then children will avoid correct answers. It’s a preposterous idea. But you see that there are commissars ready to fight for the right for your kids to be wrong."

"For our socialists, it’s the simplest way to fight elitism, meritocracy, superiority, or privilege. Simply banish the significance of getting anything correct. Let everyone wallow in wrongness and mediocrity."

Everyone gets a ribbon. . or trophy. . watch TV, follow the celebs, do what's pc and currently cool. . and then, just get in line and vote democrat. .

43 posted on 10/21/2014 12:11:11 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

What we’re witnessing is the descent of man driven by the shame of inferior men.


44 posted on 10/21/2014 12:21:14 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: right-wing agnostic

Pass along to every parent who has children in the public school system. Mathematically Correct was a website that evaluated commonly used elementary and high school math textbooks and evaluated them according to how closely they adhered to politically correct math theory. LOTS of excellent information!

Mathematically Correct website pdf
http://www.grahamseibert.com/MK/mathmathematically_correct.pdf


45 posted on 10/21/2014 12:21:35 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: MrB

“Math smacks too much of the existence of objective reality and truth.”

That’s why they invented statistics.


46 posted on 10/21/2014 12:21:58 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: WayneS
WTF?!? You're trying to teach the children MATH, not Philosophy

You obviously realize that math is not a verbal activity anyway. Men are less voluble (in general) than women because in, general, men's brains are heavier. More geared to math and science.

47 posted on 10/21/2014 12:28:03 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Instead of having ‘answers’ on a math test, they should just call them ‘impressions,’ and if you got a different ‘impression,’ so what, can’t we all be brothers

-Jack Handey


48 posted on 10/21/2014 12:30:59 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: oh8eleven
Can't tell you how many times my life has been changed because I was taught Y=MX+B

I made a living for decades largely based upon the above formula.
49 posted on 10/21/2014 12:31:18 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

Oh, so you’re the one (1).


50 posted on 10/21/2014 12:41:59 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Uncle Miltie

What if one gets the right answer, shows the work (in great detail!), but uses a different method? what if it’s the same method but done in a different way?

In a computing logic course (college), I got a 64 on a math-heavy final exam. I went to the instructor, showed that I had done all the work correctly and as taught, but had simply written things in a different (yet perfectly valid!) way. Walked out with a 100.
The TA had simply marked wrong everything that hadn’t been done exactly the same way s/he had it done on the answer sheet. My work wasn’t wrong. Some of us mentally organize material in ways different than precisely as taught.


51 posted on 10/21/2014 12:47:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: martin_fierro

52 posted on 10/21/2014 12:52:30 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: MrB

God derived the function that we discovered as mathematics.


53 posted on 10/21/2014 1:09:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Another way to put it is “Math is God’s language”...

or “Mathematics is the language of the universe”.

In John 1, he says that in the beginning was The Word (Logos).

Ours is a logical God. It’s not a coincidence that the left is trying to keep children from learning logical thinking.


54 posted on 10/21/2014 1:12:36 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: right-wing agnostic

My bride is fighting that as a public school math teacher. She is getting a lot of flak from the parents of A students (yes, A students). Why? She is making the Honor’s classes challagging and it is cutting into their extracurricular volleyball club.

Because the girl’s path to college is to get a volleyball scholarship, and no one wants a girl who is good in math.

When the PARENTS are against you teaching real math, you have a real problem. The school is standing by my bride for the moment, but one of the parents is “connected” so that may change.


55 posted on 10/21/2014 1:32:17 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: oh8eleven
Oh, so you’re the one (1).

Yup.

But a lot of other people do as well. Algebra and basic geometry turn out to be...useful. I never would have believed this in high school.
56 posted on 10/21/2014 1:57:45 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: oh8eleven
Oh, so you’re the one (1).

Yup.

But a lot of other people do as well. Algebra and basic geometry turn out to be...useful. I never would have believed this in high school.
57 posted on 10/21/2014 1:57:56 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: right-wing agnostic

Yes, yes. I suppose their could be five, but I can see how there are four.
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How many do you want me to see?

-Winston


58 posted on 10/21/2014 2:22:19 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: DannyTN
Dear Math, stop asking me to find your x, she’s not coming back.


59 posted on 10/21/2014 3:05:57 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: right-wing agnostic
Unlike the author of the article and most of the posters so far I actually took the time to watch the video of Phil Daro lecturing about his ideas before commenting.

The points he makes are TOTALLY REASONABLE and VERY INSIGHTFUL.

He gives excellent examples of how American students are being taught answer-getting strategies and yet never really learn the mathematics behind what they are doing. He presents data on how this is causing US students to do much worse than foreign students on SPECIFIC PROBLEMS from international tests. HE DOESN'T SAY THAT ANSWERS ARE NOT IMPORTANT.

BTW this is just more support for the general observation that the authors of American Thinker articles are often not very good thinkers.

60 posted on 10/21/2014 3:11:12 PM PDT by wideminded
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