Posted on 10/09/2014 10:35:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
A panel of infectious diseases experts this morning expressed far more grave concerns for Americans about the risks of flu and enterovirus D68 than for Ebola virus disease. That’s noteworthy because the group included Bruce Ribner, MD, MPH, the Emory University Hospital doctor who led the team that successfully treated two Ebola-infected medical missionaries, Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol.
Infectious diseases caregivers and public health professionals are gathered in Philadelphia through the weekend for the annual meeting of the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA), more commonly known as IDWeek 2014. (You can also follow attendees in real-time on Twitter at the hashtag, #IDweek.) The Society organized the press conference because of the very timely news about Ebola here, Europe, and West Africa, as well as children with respiratory disease caused by enterovirus D68.
Of these three diseases, one kills 3,000 to 49,000 Americans each year, yet is preventable: Influenza. As a result, all Americans are urged to take advantage of access to this year’s flu vaccine, a sentiment strongly expressed by panel moderator, Jeff Duchin, MD, University of Washington associate professor of allergy and infectious diseases and chief of communicable disease control for the Seattle & King County Public Health Department.
And even if the vaccine is not 100% effective for a given person, the severity of the disease is reduced significantly.
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Maybe at this moment. That may quickly change.
Psst, turn the mortality charts right side up.
Those who die from the flu usually have other complications; i.e., they have additional diseases and the flu finishes them off. How many people each year die just from the flu and nothing else?
I smell NWO. It has the fragrance of AGENDA - 21 perhaps.
The EBOLA virus has 5 strains.
Zaire had a 90% death rate.
WA (west africa) strain appears half survive. I have tried to keep up and thats what appears. MOST stats arent available.
Those who got Zmapp - half lived half died - no stat on zmapp.
Marburg just showed up in Uganda. Its much the same as ebola.
Other virus loosed in USA in the past few month thanks to illegals are very serious. However, I DO NOT BELIEVE - MORE serious than Ebola - potentially.
here’s my problem with ebola that makes it way more dangerous than flu or Entero68 or just about anything else: animals carry.
The authorities in Spain put down the infected nurse’s dog. America loves dogs and cats. Unlike Africa, most American households have at least one pet. If dogs and other animals can be carriers, how would America react psychologically to having to put down all dogs, or all cats or rabbits or guinea pigs in say, Dallas or NYC or Los Angeles? America feeds the world with our pork, beef, chicken and game. America has a more concentrated rangestock production than Africa. So how do we protect our meat sources from infection? What would be the effect - to the world - of wholesale slaughter of ebola-infected herds?
Aren’t the people who believe we should keep allowing flights in from Africa during an active epidemic a little short-sighted?
I believe that the D68 is the "enterovirus". This particular strain is not well known in the U.S.; but, can be easily found in Central America; which, just so happens, is where all of the sick "children" came from; and, were sprinkled about the U.S. After which our POTUS told school districts around the country that they were to take this children in without medical forms being filled out by a doctor.
At this point, you are absolutely correct. I think the only caveat here is that this strain of Ebola seems to be more transmissible than previous strains, so the ultimate infection rate may not be known. At this time, I am more concerned about D86 actually, got a few young kids....
Your comment would be true if the gov’t, that is supposed to protect its Citizens, PROTECTED.
Now, I wouldn’t be flying ANYWHERE near a major hub, not knowing if the person near you, previously, in the terminal, etc. that you touch/brush up on/barefoot through TSA/etc. was infected (knowingly or not)
Hell, I’m surprised there wasn’t (ISN’T) a blow-back from the illegal children infecting our children already!
Also, swimming pools and motor vehicles are more dangerous than guns.
Bookmark.
I'll check back in a couple of months...
Sorry but the BS and gibberish are coming from you. Things that are likely to happen are always more dangerous than things that aren’t. With your way of thinking asteroids are more dangerous than cars because when an asteroid hits it’s massive destruction. But how many people do you know that have died in both? Which tells us that cars are more dangerous than asteroids. And the flu is more dangerous than ebola.
I don’t think this one is more transmissible, the world just keeps getting smaller. Epidemiologists have been saying for a long time that a big outbreak is inevitable, travel in this world is too easy to keep diseases isolated. The thing that’s always protected us from ebola, and still is, is actually the lethality, it just kills people way too fast to transmit enough to be a real threat. If an ebola strain comes up that makes people just mildly sick for a week or so before things escalate THEN we’re in trouble.
Propaganda.
The government can’t protect you from everything, it’s a dangerous world. Especially in a country that’s still nominally free, freedom increases risk. Don’t play around in people’s barf or blood and you’ll be fine. Barefoot through TSA isn’t going to get you sick unless you’ve got an open wound on your foot AND somebody barfed their ebola on the carpet.
No, its job is not to protect everyone from everything...Its role is quite limited. My contention being even that limited job is forsaken to their god of Liberalism (border SHOULD be shut, flights grounded/denied landing). Anyone truly believe a damn questionnaire and a thermometer as going to stop an epidemic??
Ebola has been found in bodily fluids...that INCLUDES sweat, mucus, etc. I say “Oh, you have to also have a cut..” defeats the whole “They shouldn’t be IN the friggin’ line” to begin! THEN, saving to possibly SIT next to the same (whom may fever [sweat more], sneeze, wipe their nose)....Yeah, I’d be feeling SO much more ‘secure’ w/ the gov’t ‘protections’ in place.
But you really can’t keep them out. We’re a nominally free country, sick people get to go places too. They shouldn’t but they do. And unless we know a person has ebola there’s really nothing we can do about it. The whole screening idea is just fanciful, not all sick people (even with ebola) get fevers, and we’re not stopping everybody with a fever from getting on a plane.
Just touching ebola isn’t going to make you sick. It needs to get in you. For the barefoot walking around thing you mentioned that means an open wound. I suppose maybe you could touch the bottom of your foot and then rub your eye. But it’s still a tough process, plus of course somebody needs to have oozed their ebola there in the first place. Which they didn’t.
Really just take responsibility for yourself. Don’t hang around sick people if you can help it, wash your hands. And understand it’s really not that virulent a bug. There are good solid practical reasons why more people die of the flu in this country every year than have died from ebola on the entire planet in all the time we’ve known about it. It’s just not that easy to transmit.
Sorry, but SH!T we cannot.
Those infected have NO Right to travel and infect everyone else. The FAA only has to give a denial to land to ANY plane with ANYONE aboard from the hot zone; any airline/plane that refuses to track/supply manifests...no landy either. That’s the ONLY way to handle the issue; one does NOT just go “Oh, we’re a Free nation, come on in and PLEASE don’t infect any of our Citizens”
Again, sorry, but you seem to think this epidemic is harder to catch than winning the lottery. You might also think about all the objects an infected would touch along the way: door/handles, counters, bins, overhead, tray tables, the TINY bathroom, etc. This is not just sweaty bare-feet, that is only ONE possibility.
With a high mortality rate *I* am not willing to take that chance. I’m going to trust gov’t to SAY ‘all is well’? Or that the airlines filter their air/clean the planes?
You’re right though, I don’t plan on flying anywhere anytime soon, but I’m not gullible enough to believe the virus WON’T mutate or that Mr. Walking Death won’t be an issue as long as I have Mr. Sani-Wipe and some soap.
But how do you stop the infected and not everybody else? How does the FAA find out if a plane has somebody from a hot zone? And what’s your time frame for the hot zone, in some of those places the situation is under control? Not to mention people we’re SENDING there do have to come back periodically.
You got one right, that is the only way to handle this issue. What you’ve missed is that “way” is functionally impossible and quite simply cannot be done in the real world where international travel is complex and we really have no way of knowing where everybody on a plane has been in the last couple of weeks.
It’s not what I think. It’s simple proven reality. We’ve 40 years worth of tracked history on ebola outbreaks, it doesn’t transmit well. This is a known fact.
Who said anything about trusting the government? I’m talking about being intelligent, understanding basic well published facts, and how this thing actually interacts in your life. The simple reality is that you will never in your life know a single person that has gotten ebola. Probably no one you ever know will ever know someone that has gotten ebola.
If it mutates it would probably mutate into being LESS fatal as well as easier to transmit. From an evolutionary prospective high mortality rate is actually very bad for a virus, it means it often kills its victims before transmitting. It’s so fatal because it’s a species jumper, and transmitting between people is not how it survives. It’s not nearly as fatal in bats. There is no Mr Walking Death, that is your paranoid fantasy that is not supported by 40 years of known outbreaks.
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