I find Kartographer to be very reasoned.
Posted on 09/30/2014 7:35:57 PM PDT by Kartographer
What You Need Right Now
Right now, before panic ensues, you need to ensure that you have everything you need to survive as though the world we know has ended. You need to be prepared to stay in your home for weeks, if not months. You need to be ready for a potential disruption of services.
Best case scenario: You get these supplies, the outbreak never occurs, and you can dole them out into your regular usage or stash them with your prepper stockpile while snickering at the crazy preppers.
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“Be prepared. But be educated.”
Thanks for the headsup. I have a good (microbiologist) friend, maybe he can explain this stuff to me in layman’s terms.
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Thanks for the ping!
I was wondering about the bleach water you use.
Is that something you buy already to use, or do you fill an empty spray bottle and add bleach to it? If so, how much bleach do you use per bottle?
Thanks
Lab Safety Guidelines - has info on disinfection solutions and usage.
What I’m doing right now is adding more bleach to tomorrow’s grocery list to drench in after wading through all the “I’m immune to third world diseases” posts.
I don’t mean to rain on the panic party here, but in the 3rd world countries where Ebola has spread, most everyone is STILL alive. Sure, it has killed a few thousand, but I’m sure they lose just as many people to the Flu every year.
Not trying to totally minimize this, as it COULD get very bad, especially if it mutates. Just keep things in perspective before you ‘bug-in’, seal off your home, and hunker down inside it for months.
May I suggest that you get a some Calcium Hypochlorite?
To make a stock of chlorine solution (do not drink this!) dissolve 1 heaping teaspoon (about one-quarter of an ounce) of high-test (78%) granular calcium hypochlorite for each two gallons (eight liters) of water.
Thats two gallons of Bleach!
Its a spray bottle of water with a small amount of regular old clorox bleach added. I add a small amount of bleach to a half bottle water. It doesn’t take very much bleach and I have never measured it so I can’t tell you an exact amount, but bleach is very strong so don’t add too much.
I am the redneck gourmet cook of our household. I started using bleach water to cleanup the kitchen when my wife said I left her kitchen filthy after I finished cooking. She also asked me to wash my hands before cooking which I decided was probably a good idea. After following her suggestions, we have experienced had less food poisoning, colds, and insects, and the kitchen smells great.
Seriously, bleach water seems to kill bacteria, but viruses are another thing...
You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!
Thanks for the pdf and instructions. I’ve read that Clorox liquid bleach gets weaker over time - I wonder if increasing the dose would help?
Or buy the pool shock stuff (solid, doesn’t degrade) and make my own liquid bleech.
Are our imported Ebola patients the "harvest" or the seed corn?
As a mathematician, I would suggest looking at the villages in which Ebola has spread rather than the countries. The villages have been, until now, the circle of people whom infected individuals interact with. It doesn't spread to every individual in the community, but it's not just a drop in the bucket either, and that's almost universally with more CDC and WHO experts in the village than there are residents. Once Ebola topped 1,000 cases in Africa, it was clear that this would be huge, that the "community" would be quite a few countries. My model has not changed significantly since then.
Oh, this is terrible! It will be just like 2008 when that woman showed up in Colorado with Marburg and the entire state of Colorado died a horrible bloody death! It’s a good thing we were able to use the National Guard to keep anyone from escaping from Colorado and spreading that disease to the other states. /s
Link to MMWR article discussing the Marburg case: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5849a2.htm
For those that don’t know, Marburg is cousin to Ebola, and causes an almost identical disease, with a comparable death rate. When the Marburg case showed up, no one even knew it was Marburg until 6 months after the patient was discharged. She asked to be retested after hearing of a fatal Marburg case in a Dutch person who had visited the same cave she had visited, and was then diagnosed. Yet, despite that lack of diagnosis at the time of illness, not a single person caught Marburg from that woman. That is because our health system has protocols in place to contain infectious diseases, even those weird imported exotic diseases.
This Ebola patient was staying with relatives, and was symptomatic for 4 days before being admitted to the hospital. The only people who are in some danger of catching Ebola are those relatives, and they are being watched now.
Those little pandemic kits won’t work for Ebola—it’s spread by direct contact, not aerosol—but they will help avoid the flu. May I remind everyone that flu is a killer—an average of 16,000 people die from it every year—and flu season is on its way?
I can’t understand why commercial flights out of the affected countries.
It has been my observation that there are a few posters (some of whom come across very authoritiative, even if they have repeatedly been proven wrong by events) who are downplaying and even ridiculing the potential for an outbreak.
The African outbreak is far from over, still accelerating, and the disease continues to spread.
Maybe they are just in denial, but I suspect the site is being trolled.
In the Pathology Lab we used a 10% bleach solution to decontaminate surfaces.
We had to make fresh 10% bleach solutions daily. Cheap bleach works just as good as Clorox.
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