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Chevrolet Corvette: GM Warns That Spy Feature May Be Against the Law
.latinpost.com ^ | Olivia Demarinis

Posted on 09/28/2014 10:43:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The "Valet Mode" in the Performance Data Recorder in the 2015 Corvette allows owners to secretly record conversations in their cars among other data while they are not present, such as when it is being parked by valet or worked on by mechanics.

However, state laws in some areas find secret recordings to be illegal, and GM is working to correct the problem.

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Valet Mode also allows the driver to see how the car was driven while the owner was gone. It has capabilities to lock storage compartments and disable the entertainment system until the owner returns.

The Performance Data Recorder allows drivers to make recordings of their thrilling drives in a Corvette. Valet Mode is one facet of that audio and video recording system.

(Excerpt) Read more at latinpost.com ...


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1 posted on 09/28/2014 10:43:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

It’s only legal when the government does it.


2 posted on 09/28/2014 10:48:12 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: BenLurkin; GeronL

Unattended waiting areas have security cameras that record. How is this any different? Would a label on the visor be sufficient “warning”?


3 posted on 09/28/2014 10:51:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: BenLurkin
Seems the only people who aren't allowed to record conversations are the people who actually have a legitimate reason for doing so.

Basically, the politicians want it to be illegal to record THEM while engaged in criminal activities, so they just outlaw everything as cover.

4 posted on 09/28/2014 10:52:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: BenLurkin

Easy enough to resolve. Simply post a sign in the car that says “The interior of this vehicle is under constant audio and video surveillance.”


5 posted on 09/28/2014 10:53:33 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: BenLurkin

How it’s being driven is one thing but recording conversations is none of the owner’s business.


6 posted on 09/28/2014 10:53:36 AM PDT by bgill
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To: a fool in paradise

Because those are A - not secret and B - not recording audio. The two big sticking points on recording laws are generally the recorder being secret and recording conversation.


7 posted on 09/28/2014 10:57:36 AM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: discostu

There are camera systems that record audio. Put up a sign indicating you are on camera, and it’s “not secret”.


8 posted on 09/28/2014 10:59:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: bgill

Sounds like a good idea to me. Having a recording of “Let’s go run the piss out this turd!” would definitely help a lawsuit after someone wrecked it.


9 posted on 09/28/2014 11:00:32 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: bgill

Inwhat way would it be different from doing the same type of AV recording of your home, or any other of your property?

The only problem I’d have with this is if the feds could get at the recording.


10 posted on 09/28/2014 11:09:53 AM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: a fool in paradise

But most security systems like you mentioned don’t do audio. You could do it with a sign, but of course then you have this ugly sign in your very cool very expensive car. And in some states that won’t be good enough because the recording device is hidden, the nanny-cam industry ran into that problem, in some places you can’t sell stuff with hidden recorders even if it’s a selling feature. Surveillance device laws are very complicated and GM’s lawyers really should have done their homework on this a long time ago.


11 posted on 09/28/2014 11:10:17 AM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: bgill

You can not be serious.

Its my liability if you get hurt and sue me while on or in my property.

Everything that happens on or in my property is my business.


12 posted on 09/28/2014 11:16:12 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: discostu

A simple hang tag you pull out of the glove box and hang on the steering wheel that says: “By driving this vehicle you consent to audio, video and data recording” should do the trick.


13 posted on 09/28/2014 11:18:46 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: BenLurkin

The NSA builds Corvettes? Who knew?


14 posted on 09/28/2014 11:23:30 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: bgill
How it’s being driven is one thing but recording conversations is none of the owner’s business.

Yes it is.A person's car is an extension of his home.As a guest in my home I have the (moral) right to record your conversations just as surely as you do when I'm a guest in yours.We're not taking about the government recording conversations...that's entirely different.

15 posted on 09/28/2014 11:26:43 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Unattended waiting areas have security cameras that record. How is this any different? Would a label on the visor be sufficient “warning”?”

Video is exempt, it’s the audio that is illegal to record
without at least one party’s consent.


16 posted on 09/28/2014 11:33:14 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: a fool in paradise
Unattended waiting areas have security cameras that record. How is this any different?

Assuming a legitimate question, the audio recording is the difference. No problem with leaving a nanny cam in it to shoot video in almost any jurisdiction.

Some states permit audio recording if one party consents; other states say no recording unless all consent. If no one consents, it may not be legal anywhere.

It will be fun to see them load up the prisons with owners of new Caddies who commit this felony. Suits them right for going to Government Motors.

17 posted on 09/28/2014 11:33:21 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Delta 21

“Its my liability if you get hurt and sue me while on or in my property.

Everything that happens on or in my property is my business.”

Tell that to your average business owner. Especially
Christian owned. It may be your business but in the end
you really don’t have much say.


18 posted on 09/28/2014 11:35:41 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: discostu

$35 dashboard cams do audio.


19 posted on 09/28/2014 11:35:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You Consent to Being Recorded When You Drive This Car


20 posted on 09/28/2014 11:36:51 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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