Posted on 09/23/2014 4:14:20 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
“Who, besides yourself, has granted you status to lecture anyone about anything?”
Pot. Kettle. Black.
“b plus a equals bah”
But if you say it equals “pzzt” you can still get points if you explain your reasoning.
My daughter was great at memorizing words, but couldn’t read. In 4th grade, I put her in a multi-sensory phonics reading program (Barton reading) in a private school where she learned to read.
The school district would not help her because they said she was reading fine. She could not sound out words. She has a brain injury that caused auditory and speech problems.
Don’t know about that. I learned by sight, my sister 4 years younger, learn with phonics. I can only testify to what I experienced. I am 51 btw.
My daughter didn’t read or talk in kindergarten.
She’s a senior in high school with a 4.0 at a top private school.
There’s plenty of time to catch someone up in elementary. It took 4th and 5th grade in a Multi-sensory phonetics based reading program to catch my daughter up.
Learned with phonics. Sorry being beat up by my Lab puppy!
That’s how one of my daughters learned to read. I recommend it for normal kids. It didn’t work for my daughter who had speech and auditory problems.
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Please point out my blog entry or article regarding anyone's children.
Years ago a friend who was pursuing an EdD called on me for some help with a particular method of statistical analysis, on which I had written several journal articles and a book chapter. I reviewed his work and assured him he was using it correctly. However, I was appalled at the hoops his university was making him jump through to get the degree. Most of it was busy-work. I got the impression they wanted him to think his EdD must be worth something because he had to work so hard to get it. His dissertation proposal was longer than my whole dissertation.
Agreed.
Anyone who wishes to be literate will be forced to eventually transition over to phonetic reading of necessity. That is a forgone conclusion. Even Chinese, the most notable of ideographic languages is taught using Pinyin (Chinese phonics using the latin alphabet).
The idea of learning to read the entire english language as ideographs, like traditional Chinese, was never the intention of the "sight word" method as far as I can tell; it was to get the kids to ACTUALLY READ as soon as possible, which it seems to do well.
My five year old was reading better in preK than I was by the end of first grade using traditional phonics taught in a Catholic School.
Granted, she's never going to be able to read Alan Bloom using "sight words," but she's doing pretty good with "Pinkalicious" right now, and at five years old I'm ecstatic over it.
Now when she comes to me and asks "daddy, what's this word?" I dutifully teach her to "sound it out," because I DO want her to be able to read Bloom some day.
It seems to me if the parent is doing their part the transition should be fairly seamless, but if one thinks it's the job of the school system to make their child a scholar they are in for a grave disappointment.
All in all, I find this controversy to be little more than a contemporary analog to the old "backward masking" nonsense. Opponents where so fixated on proving it was occurring, they never bothered to establish whether the human brain could pick up messages delivered in that form in the first place. nk
Children can learn more than 3,000 words/day, once they start pulling in the words. But they do have to hear them and be able to ask questions about them.
I learned to read before I was 2. I even remember the words and when I understood, where I was and to whom I was reading. My sainted mother.
She used phonics and see and say with me. She took the time with all those little Golden Books.
The public schools are a big mess because not enough people fight back. I’m doing everything I can as a solo operation. I have 400 education articles and videos on the Internet. If I waited for the Education Establishment or some other authority to give me status, I could never begin. The Education Establishment uses credentialism as a way to suppress everyone. So I charge ahead the best I can. I say to them, your ideas are stupid and here’s why. Let the public decide. A few months ago, a host of a radio show introduced me as “one of the 10 people in the country who can explain what’s going on in education.”
You are the same generation as my kids.
I had taught in the 50s and it was all phonics,which is the way I had learned.
My kids all had sight reading and no phonics.
It worked out well for all of us.
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“The same is true for math. Parents should teach their kids math, number sense, and thinking about whether answers are reasonable.”
I am shocked weekly by the <40 year old businesspeople I work with who trust every figure or graph that is emitted from a spreadsheet, an SQL query, or a computer program. It’s a lack of critical thinking skills, really, and it goes far beyond math.
What do we lose? I have had a few children go to kindergarten with no reading skills beyond reading the alphabet. I could not read when I started kindergarten.
My oldest could read the alphabet and could write her name, letters, and numbers. She could not read well until the middle of first grade. Her school taught sight words before phonics. But then they did phonics. I was confused by their methods, but over time, it worked for her. We moved to another school for second grade, and they taught all phonics all the time. By the end of second grade, daughter was reading her father’s awful Steven King novels. (He censored which ones. I was not happy.) She is a voracious reader to this day.
My children who could read when they started kindergarten do not seem to have an advantage over the ones who couldn’t. My worst reader will probably make more money in his lifetime than the readers. He has skills. He has smarts.
Reading is a brain development sort of thing and some are ready earlier than others. There is no advantage.
I learned how to read in first grade and was reading at the fifth grade level in second and college level in fifth.
No one put anything into it but me.
“What do we lose? I have had a few children go to kindergarten with no reading skills beyond reading the alphabet. I could not read when I started kindergarten.”
Now imagine what might have happened with a year or two of a leap ahead of everyone else.
Certainly, there are exceptions to anything. The smartest man I have ever known in my life did not graduate the seventh grade and could barely read a newspaper, yet he had an intuitive grasp of the technical aspects of the physical world and numbers that I have never managed to even approach. What would he have done with an education - well, who knows.
The goal of education is to develop what I call a “BS Meter.”
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