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Is It a Crime to Raise a Killer?
Yahoo News ^ | 9/12/14 | Lisa Belkin

Posted on 09/12/2014 10:23:13 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

Anthony Pasquale stops to visit his daughter at the Cedar Green Cemetery every morning, then returns once or twice more during the day. He sits on the small white bench and faces the polished granite headstone, etched with a hologram of Autumn on one side and the things she loved on the other — bicycles, soccer balls, cheerleading, skateboards.

From where he sits he can see the middle school, where his 12-year-old girl was a student, and next to that the high school, where the 15-year-old boy who killed her was one, too. When school is in session, Pasquale has even glimpsed a classmate peering out of the ground-floor science-lab windows, which look directly onto Autumn’s grave.

That’s how things work in a small town like Clayton, N.J., where everyone knows everyone else, where lives and stories intertwine. “Because it’s a small town — that’s why we live here,“ says Anthony Pasquale. But it was also why Autumn died.

“She trusted him because she thought everyone was raised the way she was,” he says of her attacker. “That everyone could be trusted. That all parents taught kids right from wrong.”

It has been nearly two years since Autumn went missing and Justin Robinson went to jail, pleading guilty to strangling her after she stopped by his house to trade parts for her brand-new bicycle. In that time her parents have learned that the stages of grief now include another step — finding someone to blame. It’s a stage well known to parents wrenched by a particular kind of loss, a kind arguably more common and certainly more public of late — losing children at the hands of other children. And it is raising questions with few answers in the existing legal system.

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Man, I feel for this guy, and while I understand his rationale, I don't think we can do what he's suggesting. This is a long article, and a very tough nut to crack, but it's a really thought provoking read.
1 posted on 09/12/2014 10:23:13 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Is It a Crime to Raise a Killer?

Like with islam?

2 posted on 09/12/2014 10:25:30 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

No. Next question.


3 posted on 09/12/2014 10:32:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
“If the minor who murdered my daughter was properly treated, parented, disciplined and supervised my daughter would probably be alive today.”

I also feel for the family, but.

Part of properly raising a daughter is instilling them with caution and "discrimination".
Discrimination is the judgment necessary to tell fast from slow, hot from cold, right from wrong, safe from dangerous, and all the other skills that people must develop to make their way in this world.
Bad things can happen anywhere. Sometimes when you try to protect your children from all the negatives in the world, you set them up for a tragedy.

4 posted on 09/12/2014 10:40:59 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

If you start looking for “root causes”, then what you’re really doing is letting the individual off the hook. As in, don’t blame the thief, blame poverty.


5 posted on 09/12/2014 10:42:29 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve read of too many cases where parents saw the warning signals and desperately sought help from the system only to be turned away because nothing had happened yet. Many times there is also the issue of not having money or insurance for long term mental health treatment.


6 posted on 09/12/2014 10:42:45 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Hmmmm... Black on White murder. How surprising...


7 posted on 09/12/2014 10:46:10 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Wolfie

Exactly. Like in the story, how the Mother says, “he was failed by the system”.....


8 posted on 09/12/2014 10:47:09 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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I read the whole article, and some comments.

My solution:

Part the killer out for his organs, and turn the parents out with just their shirts.

9 posted on 09/12/2014 10:49:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: oldbrowser

What the heck is a 12 year old girl doing describing anything as sexy? It makes me wonder what sort of exposure to inappropriate peer groups she had. Also there is no way a 12 year old daughter of mine would not know it was wrong to go to any house where a parent was not home. Especially if the only one home was a teen boy.

I think it is horrible that she was killed but parental blame can cut both ways.


10 posted on 09/12/2014 10:50:14 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

There’s a very good (but also really disturbing and not at all entertaining) book and movie about this idea. We Need to Talk About Kevin, really delves into what parent do when a kid gets broken.


11 posted on 09/12/2014 10:51:02 AM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Only if you raise him to be a killer.


12 posted on 09/12/2014 10:54:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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That girl was foolish to go to a home with no parent present and not to tell her parent where she was going. Another good article from Yahoo news, thanks for posting it. And I’ll add that the statements made by the mother and attorney at the trial DO open the door for the lawsuit.


13 posted on 09/12/2014 10:55:57 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly: in virtually all jurisdictions, a criminal act by somebody breaks the chain of causation in a torts case; i.e., it was his criminal conduct, not his parents’ negligence, which proximately caused the death.


14 posted on 09/12/2014 10:57:01 AM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: TangledUpInBlue

If parents could be fully responsible for how their children grow up, siblings would be nearly identical. I have three daughters and they have vastly different personalities.

This father has a valid complaint but not, I think, with the parents of the killer.


15 posted on 09/12/2014 10:57:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fictional)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Yes.


16 posted on 09/12/2014 11:03:31 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Instead the punk got 17 years. He’ll be out before he’s 35. Somebody else will have to put society out of his misery.


17 posted on 09/12/2014 11:09:36 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

That’s ridiculous. Many children endure abuse at the hands of their parents and never turn into killers. I mean, some people go crazy because their parents get divorced and feel “rejected”. Take Jeffery Dahmer, for example. Should his parents have been arrested because Dahmer felt “abandoned” and decided to kill people as a result?


18 posted on 09/12/2014 11:30:40 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Power always thinks.. that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws. -John Adams)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Short answer: no.
Long answer: nnnnnnoooooooooooo.


19 posted on 09/12/2014 11:43:25 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I wouldn’t sue anyone if it were my daughter but I would ensure if I could that the killer did not get very far alive from the prison once he is released.


20 posted on 09/12/2014 11:44:12 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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