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5 Tanks That Changed History
The National Interest ^ | September 7, 2014 | Michael Peck

Posted on 09/08/2014 12:08:25 PM PDT by C19fan

Only the most techno-fanatic would argue that a certain type of tank has changed history. There are so many other causes -- military, political, economic, social -- that explain victory and defeat far better than size of gun or thickness of armor.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: tanks
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

At that time, the Americans were short of gas, too.


21 posted on 09/08/2014 12:25:46 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: GeronL

I would not be surprised if that was based on a military cargo vehicle. Although it looks foreign to be, it vaguely resembles an American Hemtt.


22 posted on 09/08/2014 12:26:01 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: laplata

Sherman’s march through Georgia was the first use of “total war.” He made war on military and civilian alike. He’s therefore still not very fondly thought of in those parts.


23 posted on 09/08/2014 12:26:42 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Which makes it historically irrelevant.
There were too few to significantly affect military operations. Tank-vs-tank battles were usually small in scale and fairly rare compared to all other sorts of military encounters in WWII. There are a few exceptional cases where this was not so, but that what they are, exceptional, and generally the outcome was not decided by a quality difference between tanks.


24 posted on 09/08/2014 12:27:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: henkster

Not as critical when you are on defense. Why, Henry Fonda saved the whole fuel depot, remember.


25 posted on 09/08/2014 12:27:33 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: lacrew

because of the M1 you see a lot of other countries producing tanks with a similar design

Because it “changed history”


26 posted on 09/08/2014 12:27:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Agreed: Most historically significant?

British Mk I, Panzer II, Panther, T-34, and T-55 (M1 may supplant T-55?...give it another 20 years).

Most innovative? Lots, but I hope someone mentions the T-64B....scared the bejebus out of NATO when first introduced. Bigger gun, autoloader, etc.

Most influential? MkI British, T-34/KV-1 (love reading first contact reports on the eastern front), Tiger, Panther, King Tiger...nevermind...airpower negated that one for allies......T-55, T-64, M1, Leopard II?....lots to choose from.

27 posted on 09/08/2014 12:31:55 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DannyTN

Tanks for the memories.


28 posted on 09/08/2014 12:32:25 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: afsnco

I had relatives in the Confederate army. One died. He was from near Jessup, GA.


29 posted on 09/08/2014 12:33:12 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: C19fan

Changed history? Has someone developed a time traveling tank?!


30 posted on 09/08/2014 12:33:15 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: C19fan
Also from what I understand from reading on WW2 the tiger tank was unreliable over the long haul because it would break down far more than any of the other tanks in WW2.

But everyone hated going up against them.

31 posted on 09/08/2014 12:33:26 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: henkster

General Patton’s Third Army stole gas from US First Army.

Patton said in jest that he’d stolen enough gas to be put in Leavenworth.


32 posted on 09/08/2014 12:35:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: lacrew
I think it is from Austria (OMG Hitler...) and it is called the Panther (OMG!) lol

I imagine since you won't need big tanks of foam, that you could carry dragoons. I'd say since I already said "urban combat vehicle" it would be able to send off wheeled and aerial drones to help find enemies and guide mortar and gun fire.

Putting a turret on it would be interesting.

33 posted on 09/08/2014 12:37:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: rockrr

That was a Hope we could believe in!


34 posted on 09/08/2014 12:37:12 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Aw Jeez, what a crap movie.

Robert Shaw was approaching the fuel depot in the middle of summer.

...during the Battle of the Bulge????

Rubbish

Pure rubbish


35 posted on 09/08/2014 12:39:01 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: lacrew

It does kind of look like a HEMTT. Maybe someone could try my idea with one of those, to save costs on a proto-type.


36 posted on 09/08/2014 12:39:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I’m a huge WWII Aircraft fan. As a high school kid I idolized the B17. But truth be told, their big claim to fame was they could take a beating and they were making 16 PER DAY at the end of the war. We were literally producing them faster than they could shoot them down.

But their bomb load was paultry.


37 posted on 09/08/2014 12:40:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I don’t know. It would seem the M1 exposed the myth of Soviet/Russian armor when it dominated the feared T-72 in Desert Storm.


38 posted on 09/08/2014 12:41:44 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: henkster

Thanks for the post. I didn’t know the Sherman actually did well in trained hands and good leadership.


39 posted on 09/08/2014 12:43:41 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

You got a sneak preview of a post scheduled for next week on Homer’s WW2 daily thread.


40 posted on 09/08/2014 12:44:42 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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