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Google announces its own delivery drones project
Economist ^ | Aug 29th, 2014

Posted on 08/30/2014 6:04:56 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Winging it

Google announces its own delivery drones project

Aug 29th 2014 | SAN FRANCISCO | Business and finance

AT THE end of 2013, Amazon made quite a media splash when it revealed that it had been testing the use of small drones to deliver packages. The company is betting that the airborne marvels will eventually be able to transport parcels to customers within a ten-mile radius of the vast network of warehouses that it runs. But it is not the only tech giant with its eyes on the sky. On August 28th Google announced that its secretive "Google X" arm, which works on bold and risky long-term projects, has also developed a prototype delivery drone, as part of an initiative dubbed Project Wing.

Google has already shown with its driverless-car initiative, which was also hatched in Google X, that it is willing to promote ambitious new ideas, or “moonshots” in Google-speak, in the field of transport.

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: drone; google
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1 posted on 08/30/2014 6:04:56 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I thought the FAA, another unConstitutional organization, had already nixed this idea?

Or is it Google’s deeper pockets allowing them more “privileges” than a guy wanting to deliver beer or pizzas via drone...


2 posted on 08/30/2014 6:12:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Times like these, I wish we had an edit function....

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/31/tech/innovation/beer-drone-faa/


3 posted on 08/30/2014 6:13:25 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse
I heard Google undeterred and keeping on lobbying.
4 posted on 08/30/2014 6:15:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It will be OK once they hook up the NSA cameras...


5 posted on 08/30/2014 6:16:35 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I would like to see more active thought about a decentralized economy in which people own real property which allows them to be free and independent. That seems like a worthy Conservative goal.

Here's the problem:
Robots can (or will) be able to produce most things (including fast food) and provide many services.
Our society and our education systems are very broken -- we aren't good and producing lots of smart people with good work ethics.
Foreign competition is giving us a good run for the money.
3-D printer technology can (or will) bring many simple devices within reach without much of an infrastructure or need for labor.

Possible solution (for those who would want it):
Own a few acres of land.
Build a tiny house off the grid.
Grow your own food.
Use a 3-D printer for many items, and drones deliver other items when needed.
Freedom. Independence. Property ownership. Who needs government?

And for the people who choose to live differently -- no problem at all. But I sure would like to see government charity ("donated" by others at gunpoint) come to a complete stop. But, hey, if you can find decent employment, that's great. Or die in an alley. Or go homestead (see above).

6 posted on 08/30/2014 6:17:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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An interesting question to ask is whether consumers have enough money to buy all products and services business will pour out into the market. Customers may have stagnant or decreasing income.


7 posted on 08/30/2014 6:28:43 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Yes, I’d like to order a piano....1600 Penn. Ave. Thank you.”


8 posted on 08/30/2014 6:53:10 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In a Country predicated on individual freedom, this never should have been an issue.


9 posted on 08/30/2014 6:55:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is great! My Google deliveries take far too long as it is now.


10 posted on 08/30/2014 8:02:24 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Dead Corpse

Not nixed. . .undergoing regulation review.

Sense and avoid/detect and avoid are big safety issues that need over-sight.

FAA developing regulation regarding that.


11 posted on 08/30/2014 8:14:01 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Drones....just what the terrorists would love to get their hands on.


12 posted on 08/30/2014 8:51:12 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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Drones....just what the terrorists would love to get their hands on.

It's not like they are difficult to obtain now. This will be a big issue in the near future.

This one has a 5 ft wingspan and is a knockoff of the Predator

13 posted on 08/30/2014 9:00:51 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Hulka

So... It’ll be outlawed until Amazon and Google buy enough legislative power to corner the market for themselves...

Sound about right.


14 posted on 08/30/2014 10:19:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Corner what market?

UAVs?

There are literally hundreds of UAV manufacturers and Amazon and Google buy from them. They don’t make their own, and the FAA will define training, safety and certification requirements to use UAVs commercially.

Regulate airborne delivery to corner the market?

Local pizza delivery via UAV. . .how can Amazon/Google corner that market?

Seriously, am asking, what market can they corner?


15 posted on 08/30/2014 11:33:48 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Product delivered by drone. The FAA shut down the guy trying to deliver beer via drone to ice fishers in my home State.

Now, big money is moving in to take another run.

Wanna bet any “new” regs will price out the smaller competition? Go on... Let’s bet a nickel... Keeping it friendly and all...


16 posted on 08/30/2014 8:04:29 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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Shutting down that operator was exactly what the FAA threatened to do with Amazon when Amazon spoke of doing deliveries. So, no regulations right now to ensure safety and proficiency and the FAA regulates and the regulations will be in place soon. Makes no difference if it a large or small operator, safety and proficiency standards will be the same. Like pilots and airlines. I imagine safety and operational regulations for the platform and operators will be akin to a ‘commercial’ license for pilots. A step up from hobby fliers and demonstrate increased proficiency.

So, I will take that bet. . .if I lose I will tell my wife I was wrong. If you lose, you tell your wife/other that you were wrong.

Deal?


17 posted on 08/31/2014 7:53:19 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

From where does the FAA derive its rightful power?

It certainly isn’t the Constitution.

Count on any “regulations” they write now to be voluminous, completely unnecessary, and well outside the reach of small or marginal operators to provide services.

Amazon and Google will be able to. The guy selling six packs across a frozen lake... Not so much.

That was my point.


18 posted on 08/31/2014 6:05:21 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Your argument would kill all but the major airline companies. . .but it does not. It is the regulations/certification of the operators, aircrew and ground, that are subject to the most regulation. So, no, get a commercial license/certification and meet FAA standards (https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/) and you are in business. Many do. I know plenty of basic commercial pilots owning one to two aircraft and they fly deliveries and shuttle people.

The only issue now is how to ensure UAV detect and avoid/sense and avoid are meeting at least manned standards.

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/mcmurry/lift_2014fall/#/18

Chart on right-side. Look at the total numbers. Amazon and Google aren’t even a single-digit percentage of those numbers.

But I get your point, you hate Amazon and Google and hate what you feel they can do, and argue against having national regulations in place to ensure proper training and certifications in the aviation world.


19 posted on 09/01/2014 7:27:25 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Your entire premise is flawed.

http://www.wingsoverkansas.com/features/a1221/

Government isn’t the answer, it’s the disease.

Why in Nine Blue Hells does an unmanned delivery drone need to meet manned flight regs?


20 posted on 09/01/2014 10:15:57 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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