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Flight Diverted After Passengers Feud Over ‘Knee Defender’ Blocking Reclining Seat
ABC via Yahoo News ^ | Aug. 26,2014 | ABC News

Posted on 08/26/2014 7:33:15 PM PDT by Michael.SF.

A $22 product designed to protect the most sacred of things when flying –- personal space -– led to an unscheduled landing in Chicago during a flight from Newark to Denver.

Two passengers aboard the diverted United Airlines flight got into a heated argument Sunday after a male passenger used the product, the Knee Defender, to prevent the woman in the row in front from reclining her seat.

The man, who was not identified, placed the Knee Defender’s brackets on his tray table attached to the back of the seat in front of him, 11B.

The female passenger seated in 11B became angry over not being able to recline her seat and reportedly threw a cup of water in the man’s face.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; producttampering; tempertantrum; uncooperative
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To: EinNYC

You and I are on the same page.


101 posted on 08/27/2014 6:20:58 AM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Why would the pilot divert the flight over something like this? This was an emergency? Everyone’s travel plans disrupted because of two idiots and a spineless captain?


102 posted on 08/27/2014 6:45:51 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: flaglady47
This woman was doing exactly what she, in a free society, was entitled to do.

Thank you!

But of course, this is Free Republic, where the woman is always wrong.

103 posted on 08/27/2014 7:29:28 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: Nea Wood
where the woman is always wrong.

Now, now, now. I would refer you to Post #1, where I supported the woman in this case.

I would also rephrase your statement: This is Freerepublic where the Democrat woman is always wrong.

I like that better.

;)

104 posted on 08/27/2014 7:49:40 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: a fool in paradise

Sure, the bulkhead, exit isles, and even upgrades when possible but for those who have to fly coach on business almost every week with frequent last-minute bookings and schedule changes, those seats are rare.


105 posted on 08/27/2014 8:15:18 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: matginzac

Thanks, it isn’t every day that someone recommends I go on a flight that gets shot down or crashes.


106 posted on 08/27/2014 8:49:06 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Michael.SF.

“Sorry Mr. 12B, your space begins where my seat back stops, when in the reclined position.”

Yes, well, my space includes the tray table, which I should have some expectation of actually being able to use to get some work done. That is why I am particularly vigorous with my use of the tray table when the person in front of me has decided to recline their seat under inappropriate circumstances.


107 posted on 08/27/2014 9:02:22 AM PDT by altsehastiin
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To: UnwashedPeasant

That looks very much like the interior of the old Lockheed L-1011 TriStar.


108 posted on 08/27/2014 9:05:25 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Skybird
I always cringe when I see passengers wearing flip flops or other types of similar footwear—the training always reinforced wearing adequate footwear in case you have to exit the aircraft other than the way you got on board.

They're wearing flip flops courtesy of your Muzzie terrorist friends. They don't want to have to remove their shoes while being scanned. I still wear shoes and take them off, but I'm sure that's why a lot of passengers wear flip flops.

109 posted on 08/27/2014 9:49:26 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Bulwyf

Last week I flew from Ohio to Texas. When I boarded, the guy in front of me was already kicked fully back and snoring.


110 posted on 08/27/2014 10:02:48 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: altsehastiin
has decided to recline their seat under inappropriate circumstances.

LOL

And those circumstances are defined by you.

111 posted on 08/27/2014 10:17:25 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: Michael.SF.

I would bet she IS a Dem woman because the reactive behavior smacks of a certain type that is absolutely lock-step Dem.


112 posted on 08/27/2014 10:42:23 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: EinNYC

No. It’s because society is low-class. Don’t give a damn about looking decent, only about “comfort” (which I hugely beg to differ on flip-flops or any sandals).


113 posted on 08/27/2014 10:44:53 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Nea Wood

Not all us women agree with the woman all the time either. I in this case, think this went over the top.


114 posted on 08/27/2014 10:45:28 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Michael.SF.

“And those circumstances are defined by you.”

Again, I believe that it is rude to recline your seat on an airplane unless you are on an overnight flight.

There’s no reason to recline one’s seat on a short, daytime flight.


115 posted on 08/27/2014 10:47:55 AM PDT by altsehastiin
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I would bet she IS a Dem woman because the reactive behavior smacks of a certain type that is absolutely lock-step Dem.

The woman asked the flight attendant to ask the man to remove his Knee Defenders. That is completely civilized behavior. The flight attendant asked him to remove the Knee Defenders. She had more than a leg to stand on, because those are prohibited to use on the airline. The man refused. NOW we're entering uncivilized territory. He was politely asked to remove those things so that the woman could get what she paid for, and he decided to be a harda@@ and refuse. I don't know if I would have thrown water on him, but more than likely he said something nasty and stupid to her and she just reacted, after being frustrated by his VERY unchivalrous behavior.

Much more likely HE is a Demojerk. The woman paid good money for the flight. She is entitled to be comfortable. For me, going to Denver is a long flight of several hours. I will be darned if I am going to be forced to spend all that time in an upright position so that the guy behind me can be comfy. A compromise has to be reached. I recline my seat a little, not all the way back, and he can do the same.

116 posted on 08/27/2014 11:59:21 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: P-Marlowe

When I had little kids traveling with me, I made sure we sat where no one was in front of us so they wouldn’t kick anyone. If you have a problem with people reclining, then you should try the same thing.

I will also add that you might want to change airlines. I traveled on Virgin America for the first time last week and was amazed at how much leg room and larger more comfier seats than American. I will try to go on Virgin more often!


117 posted on 08/27/2014 12:59:10 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: steve86

No, no!!! Not what I meant AT ALL!!!
I saw the photo of the empty cabin. You said you needed a “people buffer” which brought to mind the photo...
I, too, need a people buffer especially when traveling so voila!
Mayalasian Air! Once they’ve crashed or been shot out of the air, what are the odds?
Think of all that leg room!


118 posted on 08/27/2014 2:00:10 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: EinNYC
First off, none of this was in this article.

Indeed he sounded like an ass, but “heated” and “diverting” and “both thrown off” sounds a bit more than just tossing water.

Bottom line, instead of ASSuming she can just back into someone, she should be the first to ask if it is OK to recline. [You said she paid money and is entitled to be comfortable (hah, on airlines these days?) - so why not him?]

Sorry, but it is true that they recline more than is really "comfortable" for the next person. I guess that is if you are on a half-empty flight and it doesn't matter.

I already went over the etiquette rules in my first reply.

119 posted on 08/27/2014 2:45:19 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

He could have politely asked her to only recline slightly, not totally. Instead, he came PREPARED to be a b______ with his Knee Defenders. So, your logic doesn’t wash for me. She has a right to recline. Perhaps they could have swapped seats, but with a darn Knee Defender sticking in my back, I wouldn’t feel like compromising either.


120 posted on 08/27/2014 3:09:04 PM PDT by EinNYC
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