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Animals can be ‘victims’ just like people, Oregon Supreme Court says
The Oregonian ^ | August 22, 2014 at 2:50 PM | Aimee Green

Posted on 08/24/2014 11:17:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai

In two landmark rulings earlier this month, the Oregon Supreme Court said that animals—whether they be horses, goats, dogs or cats—shall be afforded some of the same basic protections as human beings.

The dual rulings are expected to make it easier for police to rush to the aid of ailing animals without first obtaining a warrant. They also could result in harsher criminal repercussions for those found guilty of abusing or neglecting animals.

“These are hugely helpful to the prosecution of animal-cruelty cases,” said Jacob Kamins, a Corvallis-based prosecutor assigned to pursuing such cases across Oregon. …

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: animalcruelty; animalrights; oregon; victimstatus
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To: shibumi

Heh


61 posted on 08/25/2014 12:46:25 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander

62 posted on 08/25/2014 12:46:30 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Read the article.

It matters *more* before puberty but it ~always~ matters.


63 posted on 08/25/2014 12:47:50 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: itsahoot

i’m just saying courts words in rukings are precise and specific, when they say something a certain way, they mean it the way they wrote it.

the prior guy said the court said this makes animals equal to humans. that’s not true because they actually didn’t say that, they said that those animals - the domestic ones referred to per this case - were afforded certain rights of protection that humans have. that is not giving them 100%equal status under the law in every way people are. if that is what the court intended to do it would have stated it exactly that way.

you can’t stop libtards interpreting thigns the way they want. they find abortion rights under a non-existant right to privacy that’s written nowhere in the constitution. that doesn’t change what the court wrote in its verdict.


64 posted on 08/25/2014 12:48:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

People that steward animals, already know the lay of the land. Busy body folks love to enact laws, to rest their supposed “laurels of moral wisdom,” upon. When in fact, reality is soon upon them, with no restraint.


65 posted on 08/25/2014 12:48:45 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Thank you for the clarity.


66 posted on 08/25/2014 12:49:00 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: itsahoot

Hyperbole, much?


67 posted on 08/25/2014 12:49:34 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander

sorry, i can’t tell by screen name. :-)

you can by mine though.


68 posted on 08/25/2014 12:50:55 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai; Salamander; AnotherUnixGeek

Post #58 was not addressed to either of you, but in case you missed it goes to the heart of your disagreement.

Thank you Mr. Geek.


69 posted on 08/25/2014 12:51:01 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: RedHeeler

“Busy body folks love to enact laws”

Do you, by chance, have a bunch of starving dogs chained up to barrels in your back yard?

You seem to have issues about people “interfering” with stuff like that.

Just asking.


70 posted on 08/25/2014 12:52:32 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

There were already, well established animal abuse laws in Oregon. Make a point of looking forward, since foresight is almost as useful as hindsight.


71 posted on 08/25/2014 12:53:36 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Secret Agent Man

I chose an ambiguously amphibious name, just to be contrary.

:)


72 posted on 08/25/2014 12:53:54 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Who gets to decide what is animal-cruelty?

There are groups of vocal and politically connected animal rights activists who want to ban horse drawn carriages in New York City. They say it’s abusive for draft horses to pull buggies.

Yet every equine expert who has examined the horses and inspected their stables say the horses are happy and well cared for.


73 posted on 08/25/2014 12:55:22 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Salamander

Thanks.


74 posted on 08/25/2014 12:55:46 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

Well, let’s discuss humans, since that seems to be the contention, here.

If somebody kills 20 people, are they charged for *one* act of murder, or 20?

If 20 dogs are abused, why should the abuser answer to only *one* charge?

Which dog gets legally vindicated?

Which 19 are ignored?

And why?

Was one dog more important than the others?

Just for one moment, imagine how this will impact *puppy mills*.

Not one, wholesale abuse charge....*hundreds* of them.

Think that might finally shut down those hell holes?


75 posted on 08/25/2014 12:59:54 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Olog-hai

If they don’t have thumbs and can build rocket ships, they are animals.


76 posted on 08/25/2014 1:02:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

What did the experts say about the ones who dropped dead from exhaustion or were hit by cars?

“Equine experts” defend horse racing.

Barbaro?
Ruffian?


77 posted on 08/25/2014 1:02:52 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander

Criminals are criminals. No law or overreaching laws, will ever change that fact, of human nature.


78 posted on 08/25/2014 1:10:15 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

not everyone stewards animals well. have you ever seen a hoarder house/property? do you not know of the feral cat issue around the nation? dogfighting? greyhound abuse? irrespnsible breeders just letting domestic animals loose that don’t fit their requirements? humane societies deal with this every day. animal welfare/humane officers see it. they don’t make the crap up from nothing. there are so few of them they don’t have time to do that.


79 posted on 08/25/2014 1:13:36 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RedHeeler

And that overly generalized, random observation has exactly *what* to do with anything in this thread?


80 posted on 08/25/2014 1:15:22 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Might as well make it worth their while.)
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