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Should the eyewitnesses (re Michael Brown shot) & Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Mo. be polygraphed?
8/19/2014 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 08/19/2014 7:56:25 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Secondly, should a special prosecutor be appointed by the governor of Missouri to look into the shooting of Michael Brown?:

If the Missouri prosecutor (who might be the head of the investigation probing the shooting of Michael Brown) has a mother, father, brother, uncle and cousin who all worked for the St. Louis police department (Ferguson, Missouri is a suburb of St. Louis, Mo.) - his father was reported to have been killed and the suspect was a black individual - should he be replaced by a special prosecutor appointed by the governor of Missouri (Jay Nixon)?

Third, where is the shell casing for the bullet that was told to have been discharged in the struggle for Darren Wilson's gun? Was gun powder residue on Michael Brown's clothing? Is "Josie's" account on the Dana Loesch radio show hearsay?

Fourth, are Michael Brown's hand prints on the gun?

Fifth, is there a bullet hole in officer Darren Wilson's car if there was indeed a struggle for officer Darren Wilson's gun and a bullet was discharged?

Sixth, how many bullet casings were recovered?

Seventh, should the police (across the country) take the same stance if the situation is reversed and release info that may or may not look like it exonerates a suspect, or should they take the position that they will take the same stance with unsub perps (and police officers) and never release information piece meal for either side?


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KEYWORDS: danaloesch; danashow; darrenwilson; eyewitness; eyewitnesses; ferguson; fergusonshooting; josie; michaelbrown; missouri
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Just wondering what people here think of this whole thing. Please, no Ad Homs against the police in Ferguson Missouri, or the eyewitnesses, or anyone posting here at FR. Let's stick to the topic(s) at hand... Thanks.
1 posted on 08/19/2014 7:56:25 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It should be handled by the appropriate local and state officials.


2 posted on 08/19/2014 7:57:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Would a polygraph test (or multiple ones in case of a result of “inconclusive”) for each of the eyewitnesses (and officer Darren Wilson, too, as there would undoubtedly be calls to keep this balanced) be administered to ‘get to the bottom of this’?


3 posted on 08/19/2014 7:58:09 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: cripplecreek

Is the prosecutor “appropriate” given the circumstances? If this were reversed would it be appropriate?


4 posted on 08/19/2014 7:59:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Constitutionally speaking, the feds have no place here.


5 posted on 08/19/2014 8:01:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: All

all polygraphs are inadmissible in court because they can be manipulated and are easily faked or guided by the operator via interpretation or the leading questions.

This is an act of desperation by the lawyers of the Parks firm to salvage yet another loser case.


6 posted on 08/19/2014 8:03:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cripplecreek; All

I’m not talking about the feds...

The Missouri Governor would be the one who (Constitutionally speaking) would have the right to appoint a special prosecutor - if were so inclined.

I agree, lets keep this constitutional - no feds should be involved.


7 posted on 08/19/2014 8:04:02 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

There is the element of some outside group or individuals coming in to cause disruption, incite violence, destroy property and to provoke authorities for media attention working in concert with race pimps like the Rev. Al Sharpton. If a ‘protestor’ isn’t from Ferguson, he/she has no business there. imho.


8 posted on 08/19/2014 8:06:17 AM PDT by yoe ( Served as a test pilot)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

So far the only reason I’ve seen to sidestep the current prosecutor is because he’s white.


9 posted on 08/19/2014 8:06:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Which eye-witness? The one who has admitted guilt in the robbery, or the dozen whose version of the events coincide with the officer’s version?


10 posted on 08/19/2014 8:06:29 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Polygraphs are routinely administered before a case goes to trail. Why wouldn’t the police or the prosecutor in Ferguson Missouri not want to do this?

What does the Parks firm have to do with this? I was unaware of them calling for this. I have yet to see any in the MSM reporting on this, nor have I seen any talking heads or pundits in the MSM talk about the possibility of this.

If you have any links to the Parks firm concerning this (thus proof to bolster your statement), I would sure like to see them.


11 posted on 08/19/2014 8:09:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Ingtar

All of them - including the four who don’t coincide?

Why not?


12 posted on 08/19/2014 8:10:30 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Dorian Johnson better be very, very careful of what he says. He'd probably be better off not taking a polygraph test.

If the shooting of Michael Brown is tied back to the convenience store robbery, then by law, if Johnson was an accomplice in that robbery he can be charged with homicide in the death of Brown.

We had a robbery shooting here last year where four yutes from nearby Castro Valley tried to rob a local pawn shop. The owner shot and killed one of the robbers, and the other three ran away. They were all eventually caught and charged with robbery and homicide in the death of their friend.

Johnson could be in the same situation if the shooting of Brown was a result of the robbery that Johnson was also involved in. If it was all one long continuous event, then Johnson could be held liable for Brown's death.

It's not likely that Johnson will be charged, though. Can you imagine the riots that would result from that?

-PJ

13 posted on 08/19/2014 8:11:27 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: yoe

Red Herring.

I don’t care for Al Sharpton at all, nor his politics, but bringing him into this is a red herring.


14 posted on 08/19/2014 8:11:44 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Where are the cigars?
Is there a hospital report?


15 posted on 08/19/2014 8:15:58 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: cripplecreek

You are moving the goal posts and straying from your earlier position that we need to keep this constitutional - and keeping this constitutional I agree with completely.

The Missouri governor is white, btw.

As for me, I can’t see into the hearts of people. Maybe some can, but I can’t, which is why I like to keeps things purely objective and even for all sides be they black or white


16 posted on 08/19/2014 8:17:19 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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No one is required to submit to a polygraph. Police sometimes ask a suspect to take one to eliminate themselves as a suspect. It is not admissible in court, and is of no legal consequence except to law enforcement in conducting an investigation.

So this entire thread is an exercise in irrelevant hypothetical alternative reality role-playing.

17 posted on 08/19/2014 8:18:50 AM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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To: Political Junkie Too

I was surprised when the police said that he would not be charged, and I didn’t see any non-verbal cues from him telling Michael Brown that he should put the cigars back where he got them.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 8:19:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Political Junkie Too

Johnson was an accomplice, but I think it unlikely he has liability for felony murder. The theft was not a felony, not sure about the assault. Whether the theft was over at the time of the encounter of the officer would be an issue as well. There are legions of cases on that issue that are too detailed to get into here.


19 posted on 08/19/2014 8:22:59 AM PDT by Defiant (4 main US grps: conservatives, useless idiots (aka RINOs), marxists and useful idiots (aka liberals))
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To: Defiant

No, it isn’t an exercise in irrelevancy or reality role-playing, as someone involved as an eyewitness, etcetera, saying no to a polygraph may speak volumes. Maybe, maybe not...

And if you believe that the tread is irrelevant then why post on a thread that you believe to be irrelevant?


20 posted on 08/19/2014 8:23:58 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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