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Proper response to Michael Brown incident
News | 15 August 2014 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 08/15/2014 4:47:40 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The proper response to someone being killed is to go through our establish legal system. If a student my son knows were to be killed by the police in the town where they attend school (the police there are VERY rough), we would NOT allow our son to hit the streets in protest no matter what. And, we would not join him in that protest. We would not allow him to tear up someone else's property because he was angry about the death and neither would we as parents. So, what is wrong with this picture? The people involved in the rioting in Ferguson, Missouri clearly don't have a value system of any kind nor do they do they have any respect for rule of law.

The only thought they have is that they can do what they please and if you disrespect them or offend them in some way, they can beat you or kill you. The attitude is a feral one, whoever is strongest gets it all. Whatever happened to taking matters through courts of law? Now, it appears that if someone is black, they have a right to beat the hell out of anyone who disagrees with them. I'm not interested in that lifestyle.


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This thing is spiraling out of control because we have no leadership in this nation. Rather, we have a radical leftists bent on destroying the present system and establishing its own "Caliphate".
1 posted on 08/15/2014 4:47:41 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Several witnesses saw this go down, yet none of them pulled out their cellphones?


2 posted on 08/15/2014 4:49:03 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Barack is the wife.)
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To: YourAdHere

They were too busy texting.


3 posted on 08/15/2014 4:49:56 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Honestly, it’s way past time to address the heavy militarization of local police and their over zealous response. We shouldn’t miss an opportunity to defang the Gestapo.


4 posted on 08/15/2014 4:57:12 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We’ve got to be our own leaders and not adopt the “They was dissin me” attitude. Bring police back into the fold and create a society that needs less of them.


5 posted on 08/15/2014 5:01:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The people involved in the rioting in Ferguson, Missouri clearly don't have a value system of any kind nor do they do they have any respect for rule of law.

Why the surprise? What else can be expected from a culture that would use the excuse of winning/losing a major sporting event to overturn & burn cars, loot and set on fire businesses and turn neighborhoods into looking like the aftermath of a direct hit by a category 6 hurricane?

6 posted on 08/15/2014 5:01:22 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We don’t really know what the facts are, other than that a cop shot a black teenager, but that doesn’t seem to matter.


7 posted on 08/15/2014 5:01:47 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The proper response to someone being killed is to go through our establish legal system.

Like the cop who murdered Andy Lopez in Santa Rosa and the DA who refused to send it to a Grand Jury???

8 posted on 08/15/2014 5:26:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Why is it bad to protest against the government for a redress of wrongs?
I don’t get it. Did the author take a similar stance on Cliven Bundy?


9 posted on 08/15/2014 5:26:49 AM PDT by the808bass ( I am the rodeo clown for your pain.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If you don't do exactly what the cops say, they can kill you. If you don't do what feral citizens want, they can get away with whatever they want.

We used to be a nation of laws. Those laws were EQUALLY APPLIED and offered little protection for those who did wrong, even if they were a rich man, a politician, or a police officer. That is no longer the case. We have consistently applied different standards to different people and that is resulting in people taking into their own hands, the "justice" that should be served by the law.

Corruption, across the board, regardless of political party, is what is killing this nation. Period.

10 posted on 08/15/2014 5:30:17 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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11 posted on 08/15/2014 5:39:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Caipirabob

I agree with you, Mene. That is the civilized & rational response. And that is the situation we are in. They are “breaking down” our society at it’s roots.

To caipirabob- Do you ever wonder if the purpose (or part of it) is to create a conflicted dichotomy that manipulates us into shifting our disapproval from antisocial behavior to those whose role it is to curb antisocial behavior? e.g. People are supposed to hate cops & “empathize” with the “oppressed”. (oh BULL!)
Imho, that’s a foolish mistake. Neither one rationalizes the other, but it gets so tangled up trying to figure out who “started” it- many people are getting confused.

We’re supposed to be confused because that makes us more vulnerable to manipulation.


12 posted on 08/15/2014 5:47:25 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If a student my son knows were to be killed by the police in the town where they attend school (the police there are VERY rough), we would NOT allow our son to hit the streets in protest no matter what. And, we would not join him in that protest. We would not allow him to tear up someone else's property because he was angry about the death and neither would we as parents. So, what is wrong with this picture? The people involved in the rioting in Ferguson, Missouri clearly don't have a value system of any kind nor do they do they have any respect for rule of law.

I'll agree with half that. People used the death of the young man as an excuse to loot and pillage and that is inexcusable. But to criticize people for peacefully protesting when they believe an injustice has been done? I see nothing wrong with that and I applaud them for taking their stand and making their feelings known. If we cannot protest our government when we believe they are in the wrong then we forfit our First Amendment rights.

If the people in Ferguson were wrong in peacefully assembling to oppose what they see is an injustice on the part of the law then wouldn't the same be true of those who rallied to support Cliven Bundy?

13 posted on 08/15/2014 5:47:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Solson

“We used to be a nation of laws. “

Very true. I have no faith in laws being equally applied in the United States today. The entire legal system has been corrupted by big money and politicized.

In addition, due to the outrageously high cost structure, only the poor represented by government paid attorneys, and the wealthy can afford to be in the court system. God help a middle class citizen mistakenly charged with a crime or sued by a neighbor. By the time he goes through the system it won’t matter if he wins or loses. He’ll be financially destitute.

Finally, the jury system no longer works. Most citizens, educated in the public school system, are incapable of objective thought. They make decisions based on emotions, racial solidarity, perceptions shaped by political correctness, or media stereotypes. When I sat on a jury, none of the other jurors wanted to rationally review the facts. Instead their preconceived notions of “fairness” were all they wanted to talk about. I came away from the experience knowing I never wanted to be judged by a “jury of my peers”. Peers they are not. The alternative, an arbitrary ruling by a far left judge appointed by life and not accountable to anyone isn’t very appealing either.


14 posted on 08/15/2014 6:50:03 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I suspect there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. For example, *every one* of the initial batch of rioters and looters who were arrested were “not from there”.

At the same time, out of a local police force of 30, with just 3 black officers, it is very apparent that the vast majority of police are “not from there” as well.

The population of Ferguson, MO, is 21,203. So perhaps the best response would be to keep outsiders out. That is, cordon off the city, and encourage outsiders to leave and not come back.

Their city council should hold several gatherings, such as town hall meetings. Because only 3 of their 30 man police department are black, they should seriously consider hiring a large number of black policemen, while laying off white policemen, until there is at least a 50/50 racial balance.

This might be done with a minimum of discomfort, by swapping police with a nearby city with an abundance of black officers. Since they are in a suburban area, they are surrounded by other cities, so in either case, officers would not even need to relocate, just drive another mile or two to their new jobs.


15 posted on 08/15/2014 7:12:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Soul of the South

“Finally, the jury system no longer works. Most citizens, educated in the public school system, are incapable of objective thought. They make decisions based on emotions, racial solidarity, perceptions shaped by political correctness, or media stereotypes. When I sat on a jury, none of the other jurors wanted to rationally review the facts. Instead their preconceived notions of “fairness” were all they wanted to talk about. I came away from the experience knowing I never wanted to be judged by a “jury of my peers”. Peers they are not.”

Your comments regarding juries really struck home with me. I had experiences similiar to yours. What I saw happened 10 years ago and I can’t think that juries have improved much since then.

I also told myself that I would not want to be judges by a jusr of my peers. I’d take my chances with a bench trial.


16 posted on 08/15/2014 9:09:43 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It s all bull sht from here on out.

I will pray for police to not be converted to let the looters loot in socialist display of redistribution, but given how the feminists of the IRS and gays have gotten the upper hand in cowering and black mailing the police in America to share proceeds, the outlook is bleak.


17 posted on 08/15/2014 12:00:06 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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But to criticize people for peacefully protesting when they believe an injustice has been done?

Enough of this drivel! Enough of it! We now have surveillance video showing Michael Brown robbing and shoving a store clerk just prior to the shooting. We have pictures showing no back wounds and now know the "witness" was lying. All of this is so stupid.

The protesters who were burning things down and destroying property should have been shot dead. No apologies. It is becoming obvious that when the policeman stopped him he obviously thought he was going to be arrested and started fighting and went after the office. The officer was injured in the incident. It is time to settle a lot of these matters once and for all. A lot of people need a major attitude adjustment. Either we have the right attitude established or let the other side win and establish Haiti here.

Weariness from arguing with ignorant people sets in. People get the kind of government they deserve. Also, to populate is to govern. With a large population of idiots, we now are beginning to get idiot leadership.

18 posted on 08/15/2014 2:23:51 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

excellent Mene.

When will Freepers learn that the “outraged” ghetto and 95% of all media are scumbag liars. Why would anyone believe anything coming from the two.

“I read that..........”

“Reports state that...............”

“Witnesses said.............”

jezus, when will people learn.


19 posted on 08/15/2014 2:32:06 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: the808bass

Were the protesters at the Bundy ranch looters?


20 posted on 08/15/2014 2:38:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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