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Windows 9 will be an operating system you can love (will be aimed at desktops, not tablets)
CoDRmputer World ^ | 8/7/2014 | Preston Gralla

Posted on 08/08/2014 10:17:45 AM PDT by Signalman

Windows 9 is going to strip out even more of Windows 8 than we thought: It will kill the Charms Bar. Considering that it will also add back the Start menu, and allow Metro apps to run as windows apps on the desktop, when it's done it may be an operating system you can love.

WinBeta reports that in Windows 9, currently code-named Threshold, the Charms Bar is going to be killed, as least on traditional PCs. That's good news. Although Charms works fine on tablets, on traditional PCs it's always been confusing and awkward to use. It's one more sign that Microsoft will be aiming Windows 9 more at desktops and laptops rather than at tablets.

Combine this with the ability to run Metro apps in their own windows on the desktop, have Metro apps include title bars and controls like traditional desktop apps, and boot directly into the desktop, and you have a version of Windows that looks and works more like Windows 7 than Windows 8.

The other news about Windows 9, according to Neowin, is that Windows 9 will have virtual desktops, which are available on Mac OS X and Ubuntu, as well as via some Windows third-party software. With virtual desktops, you create desktop different environments and can switch among them. So, for example, you might create one desktop for when you're working remotely with a work VPN, your company's enterprise apps, and so on; another for gaming; and others as well, and then switch instantly among them.

Virtual desktops aren't nearly as important as the other changes, which are all pointed at making Windows 9 an operating system designed for traditional PCs rather than tablets.

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KEYWORDS: thistimeforsure; windows9
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To: Signalman
Windows 9 is going to strip out even more of Windows 8

Or you can just wait for OS 10

101 posted on 08/08/2014 1:05:03 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If Microsoft would make a Linux version of Office Pro that worked seamlessly with Exchange, I wouldn’t have to dual boot. I hate virtual machine software.


102 posted on 08/08/2014 1:14:16 PM PDT by FXRP
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
10.10 Yosemite: Outstanding

Even if you are a beta tester, beta does not count!

103 posted on 08/08/2014 1:14:41 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: PastorBooks

My Mahjong game (Gnome) freezes regularly with Ubuntu. (and they screwed up my favorite game and renamed it “same game”)


104 posted on 08/08/2014 1:15:57 PM PDT by FXRP
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To: GraceG

Exactly.


105 posted on 08/08/2014 1:23:59 PM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Enlightened1

You lose!

That article, is about 1 1/2 years old, and the predictions turned out to be wrong.

This year, PCs are expected to outsell tablets, by a lot.

Tablets, especially the iPads, are meeting with a downturn in sales, and prospects for recovery in that segment aren’t good.

The tablets which might have a chance, are the hybrids, with a full-scale OS and convertible hardware, where they can be used as laptops and tablets.


106 posted on 08/08/2014 1:58:46 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Enlightened1

You are looking at a “very old” article and prediction, from Dec 2013, which makes it more than 1 1/2 years old, and by technological time, that is ancient.

Smartphones are meeting up with the same problem which plagued PCs, and that is that, people are keeping them longer. The longer people hold a piece of technology,the fewer the sales of the devices.

Before presenting a link, make sure it’s “current”, like from no more than 3 months old.


107 posted on 08/08/2014 2:02:53 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: roamer_1
I LOVED DOS!

Then you'll probably really like Windows 8 as well. It comes complete with "new" metro style full-screen apps that are hard to figure out how to shut down or put in the background so you can run something else at the same time - JUST LIKE DOS!

Talk about a regressive OS. Win8 has come full circle back to DOS days.

108 posted on 08/08/2014 2:34:45 PM PDT by MCH
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To: Mr. K
. ...Until I found a Start8 program that simulated the desktop

I found it after spending a few days with a new
laptop and it works very well for me.

Start8 makes it all better!! (and it's free)

109 posted on 08/08/2014 3:35:33 PM PDT by skeptoid (the thot plickens)
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To: Enlightened1

You keep making the same mistakes as the others who offer very outdated links to articles and predictions that have not come true.

Sure, the PC market is somewhat saturated, with over 1 1/2 established and working PCs, but there is a huge difference between PCs and the mobile market. PCs have a normal refresh cycle of about 1/3 of the market, which means that, there will be over 300 million PCs sold on a yearly basis.

The predictions for a slowing PC market are true, but then, most of those predictions have been off the mark, and PCs will continue to sell in the hundreds of millions per year.

Smartphones are basically the replacements for the old landline phones, and as such, there will always be hundreds of millions sold on a yearly basis, but, for the most part, they’re not really useful for computing purposes or for internet usage without needing constant upsizing of the content on those tiny screens.

The PC is dead, but not really. The predictions have been quite incorrect for the last few years.


110 posted on 08/08/2014 4:45:52 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Enlightened1

BTW, my son graduated from college a few years ago, and he’s working as an accountant for a county government, and that government agency he works at, uses only PCs with Windows.

But, he doesn’t need me to point him to a good deal on a Windows machine, and he got himself a Windows 8.1 PC from Toshiba, with the i7 processor and 1GB drive and a 1080P screen. Nice piece of gear for less than $700 (with coupons and no-tax days the last week (because of schools).


111 posted on 08/08/2014 4:49:55 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Signalman

Yes,me too. Build a good one,then a crapper,& that builds up business for the next good one,then another crapper,etc.,etc. Keeps everything going for the next good one. Build too many good ones in a row & don’t get the repeat business. Not my theory;might be theirs.


112 posted on 08/08/2014 5:22:52 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: adorno
LOL!

Too easy.... I just smoked you man with links that backed up what I said.

Yes you can believe in Unicorns and Keebler Elves too if you want.

You talk a lot of poppycock, but you have yet to even post a link from a reputable source that backs what you are saying. You are the only person I know saying this. No one else is predicting Desktops growth faster than smart phones, tablets or even Laptops.

Look in the near future (next 20 years) everything will be wired to the web. All the appliances in your home, your lights, your walls, etc.... So the demand for the desktops will continue to go down.

113 posted on 08/09/2014 6:18:16 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: adorno

Dec of 2013 was last Christmas or 8 months ago. It’s not a year and a half ago! LOL!

S...M....H...

Most technology companies make 3 to 5 year predictions. Then they report quarterly (every 3 months) on Wall Street. This is so you can track where they will be 1 to 5 years from now.

So show me a 3 months or less link, from a respectable source, that backs up what you are saying. If you ignore or fail to do this, then I will know 100% you are full of $hit. I am about 99.99% sure, but I give you that .01% benefit.


114 posted on 08/09/2014 6:29:45 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: adorno

Okay show me your 3 month prediction from a respectable firm???

The PC market is “somewhat saturated”??? LOL! That is the understatement of the year.

I guess you do not own a smart phone. If you had one, then you would know what you just said is not the case. Smart Phones are basically a portable computer. Oh... and a phone too.


115 posted on 08/09/2014 6:33:52 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

There are plenty of predictions being made on a monthly basis by several companies that keep track of sales of PCs, and smartphones and tablets. I’m pretty sure that if you’re smart enough, you can find them on the internet.

That the PC market is saturated doesn’t mean that their sales are dropping dramatically, and in fact, it’s being predicted that they could go up between 2-5% in the coming year. Saturation means that, most people who wanted a PC, already have one, and they’ll only be upgrading or replacing their current hardware with newer and better equipment.

Smartphones can bu used for “portable computing”, but, for the most part, they’re not being used that way, and are not very good for doing so. Tiny screens aren’t very good for getting any “real computing work” done. I’ve had to upgrade to a larger screen in order to try to do more with a smartphone, and that’s why I have the LG G2 with a 5.2 inch screen; I’ll be getting the slightly bigger G3 soon, with the 5.5 inch screen. Nevertheless, the G2’s computing power, or that of any other smartphone, leaves a lot to be desired.

If you actually own a smartphone, then you would know that what I just said is not debatable. They may have “computing power”, but, they’re not for use as computers. They’re personal digital assistants, with phone capabilities and texting, and are often used for social media, which is not really what a PC is designed for, but the computer can do all of the smartphones tasks, and many more.


116 posted on 08/09/2014 12:05:00 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Enlightened1

Too easy!

The following study shows a PC market still selling over 300 million devices per year. And that’s from July 2014, and not some old and outdated report from 2013. Like I said, anything older than a few months can’t be trusted when it comes to predictions. Things change too quickly in the tech world.

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2793921


117 posted on 08/09/2014 12:10:10 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Da Coyote

“Does anything Microsoft does mean anything anymore?”

I and zillions of others use and like Windows.


118 posted on 08/09/2014 12:14:06 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Enlightened1

BTW, I’m not talking about desktops; I’m talking about anything that can be classified as a PC, which includes desktops and laptops and PC/tablet hybrid devices. All totaled, they sell more than 300 million yearly.

The cloud is not going to replace PC, or any computing devices. In fact, with all the problems which cloud computing presents in regards to theft of personal information and invasion of privacy, far too many people are becoming leery of that cloud computing.

I like the idea of keeping my files and photos on my own devices, with the cloud getting the data/info which is mostly insignificant and that I wouldn’t worry about if it got lost or stolen.


119 posted on 08/09/2014 12:17:08 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Enlightened1

BTW, most technology companies have to show predictions for the future, but, those predictions are always taken with a few grains of salt, and they continue changing with every quarterly report.

Insignificant is what they are, and tech investors mostly look at the immediate future, not some 3-5 years in the future. The tech world changes too fast, and what’s up now, can be gone tomorrow. RIM, for example, didn’t take a long time to basically disappear as a major player in the smartphone space. Palm disappeared completely, and now, Samsung is having to worry about its huge decline in sales.

Dec 2013 is “ancient” when it comes to predictions. They’re forgotten because, new predictions make them insignificant, and those that made the predictions won’t even talk about them if they turned out to be incorrect, and they often do turn out very incorrect.


120 posted on 08/09/2014 12:22:34 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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