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Poll: No agreement on how to pay for highways
Associated Press ^ | Aug. 5, 2014 9:03 AM EDT | Joan Lowy and Jennifer Agiesta

Posted on 08/05/2014 8:18:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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I wonder how that poll was worded with respect to tolled roads. You don’t grant fuel tax breaks to drivers for using toll roads, of course they will oppose them.
1 posted on 08/05/2014 8:18:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Well duh. With all those ‘lectric cars on the road, we’ll just have to raise the gas tax on those evil, earth killin’ gas powered machines then. That wasn’t too hard to figure out. Maybe after the (s)elections.


2 posted on 08/05/2014 8:20:23 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Olog-hai

I would not protest raising in the gasoline tax AFTER the use of the funds was limited to roads and not unrelated expenses like bike paths and parks.


3 posted on 08/05/2014 8:21:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: rktman

-—our hiway dollars should NOT be diverted to fund public

transit in our major cities. Pay what it costs to ride. NO

more FREE rides!!!!


4 posted on 08/05/2014 8:24:01 AM PDT by oldbugleboy
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To: thackney

Yes, I would want to see a full accounting as to how the gas taxes are currently being spent, and some information on the bidding process, whether only union shops or those preferring certain demographics are allowed to get the work, etc. And an accounting of what happened to the “shovel ready” stimulus projects funds.


5 posted on 08/05/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Olog-hai

Desginate them as Iraqi highways. Then we’ll rebuild them.


6 posted on 08/05/2014 8:27:22 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: thackney
You ought to protest its very existence. It laid the pattern for other similar government Ponzi schemes.
Most of the excise taxes credited to the HTF are not collected by the Federal government directly from the consumer. They are, instead, paid to the Internal Revenue Service by the producer or importer of the taxable product (except in the cases of the tax on trucks and trailers, which is paid by the retailer, and the heavy vehicle use tax, which is paid by the heavy vehicle owner). As a result, most of the Federal fuel taxes come from a handful of States, those where major oil companies are headquartered, and most tire taxes are paid from Ohio, the home of the U.S. tire industry. Of course, these taxes become part of the price of the product and are ultimately paid by the highway user.

User taxes are deposited in the General Fund of the Treasury and the amounts equivalent to these taxes are then transferred on paper to the HTF. Transfers are made at least monthly on the basis of estimates by the Secretary of the Treasury and later adjusted on the basis of actual tax receipts. Amounts in the HTF in excess of current expenditure requirements are invested in public debt securities. Until October 1, 1998, the securities were interest-bearing and interest from the securities was credited to the fund. Since that time, the HTF balance has been invested in non-interest-bearing securities. …
That sound on the level to you? You really trust the government to administer any so called “trust fund” honestly when it never has, in any case?
7 posted on 08/05/2014 8:30:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

We already have a perfectly fine way to fund highway and road projects.

It’s called the gas and diesel tax. The various government taxes on a gallon of fuel are large enough that that they make more revenue on a gallon of gas than the oil companies make profits.

These tax revenues were intended for road expansion and upkeep projects but they have been diverted by politicians and placed in the generals funds to be wasted and squandered like the rest of our tax dollars.

Now that the fuel tax highway funds have been effectively stolen by politicians , they want more taxes to fund highway projects


8 posted on 08/05/2014 8:34:16 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Olog-hai

Get rid of the graft and over-regulation, then there will be more than enough money.


9 posted on 08/05/2014 8:35:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Olog-hai
I thought there was already an $800 billion stimulus for this a couple of years ago? WTF happened to that money?

TEA - "taxed enough already"!!!!

10 posted on 08/05/2014 8:36:07 AM PDT by Envisioning (My desire to be well informed is at odds with my desire to remain sane....)
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To: Olog-hai

I expect the fed government and the state governments to fund the roads. I expect the IRS to be involved in collecting taxes. I expect the producers/retailers of fuels to be part of the collection taxes.

Nothing in that seems out of line. I like the idea of taxes are related to the use of the service they provide. I would rather not it be funded by income tax or something else.


11 posted on 08/05/2014 8:37:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Olog-hai

Let the individual states pay for the construction and maintenance of their own Roads,Bridges and highways.Keep the Feds out of it.


12 posted on 08/05/2014 8:39:38 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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I say keep the states out of it too. Should be private firms. Anything else results in the socialist creep from states to federal government.


13 posted on 08/05/2014 8:41:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Should be private firms.

Even if the ChiComs finance them?

14 posted on 08/05/2014 8:41:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: thackney

That’s countenancing socialism. Hasn’t worked anywhere it has been tried.

The IRS has been a demon ever since the Sixteenth Amendment. It’s only a tool for oppression.


15 posted on 08/05/2014 8:43:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator

Those would not be private firms then, but Communist fronts.


16 posted on 08/05/2014 8:44:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Should be private firms.

All roads? Take that to all means of transportation? Are you going to give private firms means of eminent domain?

Governments have some useful functions. But the people need to take responsibility and hold them accountable, not just pass it off those looking for investment.

17 posted on 08/05/2014 8:45:51 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

I do like the road bonds ROAR act as a starting point.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B38FezZsDgvbSWlVRGktcVA1NFR1MDJsa2pqclNkckEyM0RJ/edit

We need interstate highway funds to fund strictly what they were intended for and the states need to go back to paying for their own roads.


18 posted on 08/05/2014 8:46:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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We need interstate highway funds to fund strictly what they were intended for

To quickly move tanks and troops in case of invasion.

19 posted on 08/05/2014 8:47:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: oldbugleboy

As a general rule of thumb, public transit is subsidized at $4-5$ per mile per passenger and special needs transport is closer to $8/mile.

Larger metro areas may bring that cost down a couple a dollar but it still would not be able to pay for itself as a stand alone entity without FHWA Transit funds


20 posted on 08/05/2014 8:48:50 AM PDT by shotgun
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