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Why Hoboken is Throwing Away All of its Student Laptops
WNYC News -- The Hechinger Report ^ | 7-29-14 | Jill Barshay

Posted on 07/29/2014 5:14:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Inside Hoboken’s combined junior-senior high school is a storage closet. Behind the locked door, some mothballed laptop computers are strewn among brown cardboard boxes. Others are stacked one atop another. Dozens more are stored on mobile computer carts, many of them on their last legs.

That’s all that remains from a failed experiment to assign every student a laptop at Hoboken Junior Senior High School. It began five years ago with an unexpected windfall of stimulus money from Washington, D.C., and good intentions to help the district’s students, the majority of whom are under or near the poverty line, keep up with their wealthier peers. But Hoboken faced problem after problem and is abandoning the laptops entirely this summer.

“We had the money to buy them, but maybe not the best implementation,” said Mark Toback, the current superintendent of Hoboken School District. “It became unsustainable.”

None of the school administrators who initiated Hoboken’s one-to-one laptop program still work there. Toback agreed to share Hoboken’s experiences so that other schools can learn from it.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnyc.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Education
KEYWORDS: arth; classroomcomputers; education; hoboken; newjersey; tech
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To: Steely Tom

Excellent summary!


21 posted on 07/29/2014 5:36:37 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: RIghtwardHo

-——What a bunch of idiots. I know they do it at several schools around here and it works great.-——

The problem I believe is one of demographics rather than hiring idiots....

We are talking about Hoboken....

Vast numbers of the students are raised in a gibsmedat environment so taking care of an expensive laptop is not a “value” that is taught at home...


22 posted on 07/29/2014 5:40:01 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This school district is giving them all IPADS from grade 6 and up.

Crazy


23 posted on 07/29/2014 5:40:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Saw similar thing in Jersey City number years ago

Used grants to buy computers(desktop) for every classroom

Kids would vandalize them - break CD rom drives, cut kb/mouse
and other cables


24 posted on 07/29/2014 5:41:07 PM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: dfwgator
If it were up to me, a student would have a textbook, pens and paper, and math or science charts only.

I agree.

Then I'm glad you two aren't in charge of supplying students with educational necessities. There are language flash cards, sheet music, and so many other things. Sounds like you two guys went to school when they didn't teach Mandarin, Japanese, and so forth. My grandchildren are learning Greek.

25 posted on 07/29/2014 5:42:22 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Put Linux on those laptops and they’ll run like new. They can also kiosk-mode Firefox to lock down the browser.


26 posted on 07/29/2014 5:44:03 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: grania

The Catholic schools around here use iPads but they have a disciplinary system also and the ability to enforce it.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 5:45:47 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Popman

Huh? Hoboken is not exactly known for its “gibsmedat environment.”


28 posted on 07/29/2014 5:50:28 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: nascarnation
If discipline is weak and there are no consequence for destroying the property, a good percentage of the students sabotage it. They didn't pay for it and won't be responsible for paying for what they destroy.

I was in a situation where they used computers for testing an incoming Freshman class. It was a teacher-intensive mess to supervise.

29 posted on 07/29/2014 5:51:07 PM PDT by grania
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30 posted on 07/29/2014 5:52:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: nascarnation

It’s all in implementation and policy. Block You Tube, Facebook, etc. It’s doable. I set up an entire school with tablets with managed content. Even the teachers couldn’t buy anything without approval. Kids and parents sign a notice of responsibility and the kid keeps the same device through their time at the school. Lock them up in a charging cart until ready to use in class and then you have the kids sign them out. Parents are financially responsible for damage. You set up the appropriate filters and policies and they are a fantastic tool to supplement instruction. Notice I said supplement, not replace. Sounds like this district was clueless.


31 posted on 07/29/2014 5:53:39 PM PDT by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Really interesting, but not unexpected result.


32 posted on 07/29/2014 5:55:21 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Turmoil in the Middle East? Quick Obama, show them your Peace Prize!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

You know... I stand corrected.... I was thinking Camden for some reason....


33 posted on 07/29/2014 5:57:40 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

When the lights go out, 300,000,000 Americans will die within a month. Won’t have a clue what to do, nor how to get back to where they were.


34 posted on 07/29/2014 5:58:50 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours IRS!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

35 posted on 07/29/2014 5:58:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Jonty30

Computers, with rare exception, have amplified “income inequality”, in that they make smarter people more capable, and the...uhhh...”less smart” less capable. Even FR is a mixed bag, a time-suck, although it may have improved my writing and critical thinking skills. Perhaps it’s sharpened my wit.

Anyway, this school really, really should have used the Internet and consulted the best practices that a business would have maintaining a fleet of equipment. I’ll bet that instead, they gave $xxxx extra to the social studies teacher to help run the show. The article describes mistakes that a for-profit company would NEVER have made.

First thing, each student should have been made aware that having one was a “shared responsibility”.


36 posted on 07/29/2014 5:59:31 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Everyone in unison - DUUUUUUUUUUH!


37 posted on 07/29/2014 5:59:55 PM PDT by bgill
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Has anyone bothered to find out if kids are actually learning anything when they have a computer thrown at them?

My kids did JUST FINE (and by that I means years ahead of their age level) NEVER using a computer to learn on, even though all the losers around them had computers (and I-Phones).

We built Hoover Dam, got to the Moon, built the Space Shuttle, and the 747 with people that someone managed to get educated without the use of computers - it really can be done.


38 posted on 07/29/2014 6:03:12 PM PDT by BobL
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To: ClearCase_guy

” and good intentions”

I would lime for somebody to tell me how taking money from some by force so as to give to others (while taking credit, power and glory for oneself) is “good intentions”.


39 posted on 07/29/2014 6:04:23 PM PDT by all the best
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To: nurees

My kids all get laptops from school. Not sure if they are allowed in class. They don’t have access to facebook, etc. I think google may even be off limits, or they have filters on it. (They often use their own computers for research, photos, etc.) All in all it works out okay, except once-in-awhile the teachers make them do something using some online software that is stupid and unwieldy. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of that crap the teachers get a kick-back on!

Two days before returning one computer my daughter put a heavy book on it and cracked the screen! $80 or something. Last year some key kept coming off right from the get-go. I saved it in a plastic bag and glued it back in place the day before turning it in.


40 posted on 07/29/2014 6:04:36 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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