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Grounding A-10s will save $4.2 billion, decision ‘clear’: USAF general
Flight Global ^ | 4/23/14 | Jon Hemmerdinger

Posted on 04/23/2014 6:29:07 PM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: Yo-Yo

I for one support this move. The A10 hog is one of the most effective close air support planes ever made. Given that Obama et al define US as the enemy, taking it out of service is OK with me.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 6:57:24 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“The service has said other aircraft can fill the A-10’s close-air support mission, including Lockheed Martin F-16s and F-35s.”

A screwdriver makes for a very poor hammer, General. The A-10 is most definitely a hammer.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 6:58:05 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: I cannot think of a name

Better than nothing, I suppose. But the CAS mission is one that requires A LOT of practice. You can’t just dust the aircraft off & put any old pilot on the stick. Bad things can happen — to our own troops.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 7:01:03 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: yarddog

Not really. The Spectre gunships (AC-130) is very vulnerable to ManPads and even AAA. It needs to be flown in what is known as a “permissive environment”. The A-10 because it maneuvers on the deck and has a lot of lift for tight banking can evade a lot of that stuff, or survive a hit.

One of the reasons that they adapted the big cannon into the Spectre was that the mini-guns were too short in range and the plane needed a better stand-off weapon to avoid the radar control guns (ZSU-23/4).


24 posted on 04/23/2014 7:05:12 PM PDT by Tallguy
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25 posted on 04/23/2014 7:13:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DuncanWaring

An Israeli F-15 made it back to base with an entire wing missing. I saw a picture of it and boy, it was hard to believe he flew that thing back.

The thing that allowed him to do it was part of the fuselage is also wing like so it was getting a lot of lift even after the wing was gone.


26 posted on 04/23/2014 7:21:27 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: SADMILLIE

We need to bring back all the jobs we sent to China.

Now.

Last year America imported 440 billion dollars worth of everything just from China.

Last year China imported just 122 billion dollars worth of stuff from America.

This has gone on now through two entire administrations. An entire generation.

Bring back American jobs.

STOP IMPORTING EVERYTHING.


27 posted on 04/23/2014 7:26:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Tallguy

I once taped two A-10s flying around for 20 minutes. The camera I was using used those mini VHS cassets and only ran for 20 minutes.

I still have that tape but it requires a VHS adapter then you play it in a VHS player.

They were a marvel to watch. Reminded me a whole lot of crop dusters. They actually looked to me like they would also be a little vulnerable to ground fire or whatever. I know they are built to withstand a lot.


28 posted on 04/23/2014 7:28:06 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

I’ve seen that picture. A-6 collision, as I recall.


29 posted on 04/23/2014 7:37:49 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Bingo ... fast fly boys do not like the lumbering but efficient A10, however troops on the ground love the close fire support rather than the high flying “dual purpose” aircraft.


30 posted on 04/23/2014 7:42:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Watching MSM news readers pimping His Arrogance is like watching a dog eat its own vomit!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

If you can’t get Puff, then an A10 is next best.


31 posted on 04/23/2014 7:43:24 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Watching MSM news readers pimping His Arrogance is like watching a dog eat its own vomit!)
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To: DuncanWaring

I knew it involved a collision but can’t remember the details.


32 posted on 04/23/2014 7:45:04 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Yo-Yo
Give the A-10s to the Ukrainians to put fear into the Russian troops.
33 posted on 04/23/2014 7:53:53 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

The Russians had a plane in WWII which was somewhat like the A-10. It was the Stormovik. It was heavily aromored and deadly on tanks.

When Erich Hartmann the all time ace of aces first tried to shoot one down his bullets just bounced off. The other pilots took the young man aside and told him how to shoot one down.

I think it involved getting below the Stormovic and shooting from under and behind it.


34 posted on 04/23/2014 8:09:36 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: The Great RJ

Very good idea.


35 posted on 04/23/2014 8:14:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Yo-Yo
A general who has his eye on an additional star,no doubt.
36 posted on 04/23/2014 8:16:46 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: cripplecreek
Wasn’t the A-10 designed with the cold war in mind?

And now our government is desperately trying to get the cold war going again.

Funny how that works...

the Acquisition Mafia at it again.

37 posted on 04/23/2014 8:18:37 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I agree move the Hogs to the army so they n protecxt themselves,


38 posted on 04/23/2014 8:36:11 PM PDT by mcshot (..."And this too shall end.")
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To: Yo-Yo

Cost: US invaded and conquered by mortal enemy communists.
Benefit: Saved $4 billion.

Sounds like an excellent Cost/Benefit ratio to me.


39 posted on 04/23/2014 8:53:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Gay State Conservative

He’s a four star. No more available.


40 posted on 04/23/2014 8:57:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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