Women mostly sought late-term abortions over relationship instability, financial woes: analysis

Life Site News ^ | Kirsten Andersen

[mountainbunny]

Yours is probably the lamest attempt to pawn off responsibility for abortion that I’ve ever read. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that women are the ones making the decision, and men tend to have little, if any, say in the matter.

I can't begin to tell you how incredibly wrong you are. I have worked directly with pregnant women who came to our pro-life group looking for support. Most of them were being pressured by their mothers/boyfriends/husbands to abort, or they had what they believed to be insurmountable financial issues. The vast majority, however, were pressured by men or their mothers.

So, blame women all you want, but I have talked to them directly, and most of them tell a different story. Additionally, if given a chance, many are looking for another way and will change their minds if given a chance.

[JimRed]

Women mostly sought late-term abortions over relationship instability, financial woes

Translation: Killing for convenience.

[papertyger]

There would be zero abortions if the father would own up to his responsibilities and help financially and be a good father. Sounds absurd but it would be so

Horse hockey. The only thing that would produce zero abortions is women not getting them.

Face it, every single abortion in this country is performed because a woman asked for the procedure

[papertyger]

Yours is probably the lamest attempt to pawn off responsibility for abortion that I’ve ever read.

Doesn't matter. Anything that absolves women of their responsibility for abortion will get universal affirmation...from women.

[MrB]

Since they’ve already gone this far into their pregnancy,
why not adopt out the little tyke?

[papertyger]

The only thing that’s a problem is us pesky pro-lifers standing in the way of all that convenience.

Again, horse hockey. If pro-lifers were interested in saving babies rather than providing "soup kitchen" services for women, abortion would be as popular as racism.

[papertyger]

Many women, upon telling the man they are pregnant, are responded to with nothing more than an offer to go Dutch on the abortion.

Entirely irrelevant. No man can compel nor prevent a single abortion in this country.

Pro-Life women admitting that fact would be a first step in changing this failed fight against abortion.

[papertyger]

The man has fifty percent of the "say" when he impregnates a woman.

And zero percent of the say on whether there's a birth.

[papertyger]

So, blame women all you want, but I have talked to them directly, and most of them tell a different story.

Make all the excuses you want; the number one reason for abortion is a woman obtaining one.

[Girlene]

There would never have been a birth had he not had relations. There would never have been a question of abortion had he not had relations. So, technically he had 100 percent say on whether there was an abortion of his child.

[LuvFreeRepublic]

Your boys will be boys attitude is part of the problem. Personal responsibility is no harder for men than it is for women. Let’s not give anyone a pass. Personal responsibility is expected of everyone. No exceptions.

Excellent! I agree.

[papertyger]

Since they’ve already gone this far into their pregnancy, why not adopt out the little tyke?

You'd think, right?

Turns out, the prevailing "it's all about me" mindset of American women has ruined adoption, too.

From mandatory open adoption, to negotiated terms of adoption, to failed adoption, there's no such thing as a binding contract with a woman in this country if a child is involved.

There's a reason we went to the other side of the planet when we adopted.

[NorthMountain]

>> In the past, though, most people generally grew up and faced their responsibilities to the child they made together.

While reviewing my grandparents' effects (after both had died), it became obvious that I am here because they "grew up and faced their responsibilities" ... as opposed to, let us say, killing my father by abortion.

[papertyger]

So, technically he had 100 percent say on whether there was an abortion of his child.

Bull!

The woman has several months to decide if she wants to be a parent, and you have the gall to equate that to the man deciding before he even has relations with her?

Twisted.

[MrB]

Yes, I’ve seen that a lot with people seeking to adopt.
It’s far easier to adopt a girl from china or an entire sibling group from Columbia than it is to adopt a child in America.

[CorporateStepsister]

In some cases, I think the men are rutting with other men!

As for the women, I think they are morons for not using birth control and not using general protection.

Frankly a huge reason I decided to abstain after breaking up with a boyfriend (nearly ten years of abstinence!) is because if I can’t afford a kid, I should not be having sex!

AS for responsibilities, they’ve been shirking their responsibility to show more respect for themselves and create a lot less baggage in their pasts. They should know by now that even the worst tart feels entitled to respect and a wedding ring.

[papertyger]

Let’s not give anyone a pass. Personal responsibility is expected of everyone. No exceptions.

Fine, then stop dragging men into the discussion of why abortions get performed.

Hell, we're just having an online discussion and women can't help but try to shift blame; what do you think they do when they're justifying their decision when they're really getting an abortion.

[Boogieman]

“In some cases, I think the men are rutting with other men!”

Yes, but those cases don’t produce any abortions that I know of.

“AS for responsibilities, they’ve been shirking their responsibility to show more respect for themselves and create a lot less baggage in their pasts. They should know by now that even the worst tart feels entitled to respect and a wedding ring.”

You’re saying this is a development that happened before feminism and women in the workforce?

[papertyger]

It’s far easier to adopt a girl from china or an entire sibling group from Columbia than it is to adopt a child in America.

I damn sure wouldn't call it "easier," but if you're interested in guaranteeing the integrity of your family: there's no other choice.

[Boogieman]

“Most of them were being pressured by their mothers/boyfriends/husbands to abort, or they had what they believed to be insurmountable financial issues. The vast majority, however, were pressured by men or their mothers.”

So what? If a someone gets “pressured” to do drugs, rob a bank, or kill someone, do we let them off the hook because someone “pressured” them? Nope. They made the choice, they are responsible for their actions and decisions, regardless of whether someone “pressured” them.