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Flushing fluids isnt just unnecessary, it's potentally dangerous.
autofoundry.com ^ | 9/25/2013 | Jason Lancaster

Posted on 10/04/2013 10:21:16 AM PDT by Signalman

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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
And never use that ‘engine leak fixer’ fluid stuff.

Good advice for most situations, but not all. Up until recently I would have agreed with you completely. My wife's Buick Regal GS has the venerable Buick 3.8L V6 with a supercharger. The car has close to 220,000 miles on it with no major repairs. Quite a while back we started losing coolant. I had to replace some O-rings and plastic elbows at the water pump that had gone bad. I had to replace this assembly another time as well. I started leaking fluid again shortly after the last time.

Because of the recent trouble... I was in the habit of checking the coolant level frequently. Fortunately, I checked the oil every time I looked at the coolant. So one morning I found that a bunch of the coolant had run into the engine and frothed up her oil badly. If my wife would have driven it any distance at all... I am sure it would have destroyed the engine.

It turns out that the lower intake manifold gasket on these engines is prone to failure. When they fail they can leak coolant into the oil pan. The replacement gaskets are fairly inexpensive, but the amount of effort required to take everything off of the the engine down to the engine is significant. I did not have the time to do it. So against my better judgment I bought a good sized container of a named brand sealant with a copper additive that had very good reviews on-line.

The car hasn't leaked any coolant into the oil system since. I keep a very close eye on it because I still consider it to be only a temporary fix, but I must admit that for this type of leak it worked very well. The car has been on some longer trips since and went through some pretty hot months without overheating. So far my "temporary fix" has lasted approximately 6 months and 10,000 miles.

61 posted on 10/04/2013 11:31:04 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: golux

Oily smoke if I remember correctly. Old question: Why do the British drink warm beer? Lucas also build refrigerators.


62 posted on 10/04/2013 11:33:20 AM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: Signalman
I own an 2002 F250 with the 7.3L Powerstroke diesel. That is the "bulletproof" version that the engineering stars seem to have aligned on. They seem to run forever.

The dealer stresses the main thing to keep up with on this engine is oil and air filters. If you neglect the oil, you put the turbo and injectors at risk as they are oil cooled. If you neglect the air filter, dirt can bypass it, 'sandblast' the turbo blades, which fail and chunk metal bits into the engine, causing cylinder wall and ring damage.

Other than that, since I pull a trailer, I change the transmission fluid per Ford's recommendation (the auto trans holds up better than the manual - Ford dropped the manual in 2004 I think).

I am sitting at 255k+ miles now...no problems and still running very strong; no smoke, doesn't burn oil, etc. The dealer I use has multiple customers with 500k+ miles on this version of the super duty.

63 posted on 10/04/2013 11:40:14 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: gura

ATE Super Blue is no longer distributed in the US because the blue dye violates federal regulations. I am series.

I’ve gone to Castrol SRF. I know about how much fluid my system holds and don’t really need the blue color to let me know I’ve bled the old fluid.


64 posted on 10/04/2013 11:41:21 AM PDT by bluetick (If you're going to err, err on the side of liberty.)
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To: Noumenon

Not all of them; some of them are Smoke, Smolder and Burn.


65 posted on 10/04/2013 11:44:05 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (My sweet talk is also savory and creamy.)
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To: bluetick

Well damn. I still have a couple cans in the garage, the feds will just have to come for me. :-)


66 posted on 10/04/2013 11:45:34 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: 5thGenTexan

“Other than that, since I pull a trailer, I change the transmission fluid per Ford’s recommendation (the auto trans holds up better than the manual - Ford dropped the manual in 2004 I think).”

My dad bought his F250 new in 2004, and the manual transmission was still available then. He went for the automatic in his.

And amazingly, he’s had no problems with the 6.0L Powerstroke in his truck. The guys who put his engine together must have really been on their game that day!


67 posted on 10/04/2013 11:48:16 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (My sweet talk is also savory and creamy.)
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To: Tupelo

Lucas also used to build a vacuum cleaner. It’s the only product they’ve ever manufactured that didn’t suck.


68 posted on 10/04/2013 11:49:26 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (My sweet talk is also savory and creamy.)
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To: Signalman

On a related topic, when it comes to monitoring the dipsticks in D.C., regular “power flushing” is recommended, if not mandatory ....


69 posted on 10/04/2013 11:50:52 AM PDT by mikrofon (Now Back to your regularly-scheduled Thread ;)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Good to hear about his fortune with the 6.0L.

That engine was so bad it cost Ford almost half it's commercial business, which is a third of Ford's total business. Ford sued International and specified getting to drop their exclusive contract for diesel engines as remedy for the damages. All they wanted was to get out of the contract so they could design their own engine.

There is a lot I like about the new Ford internal design, but not for the $60k price tag to replace mine. I also refuse to buy one with the Diesel Exhaust Fluid crap.

70 posted on 10/04/2013 11:55:14 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: gura

The Super Blue issue came up a couple of months or so ago. iirc, the manufacturer “voluntarily” withdrew Super Blue from the market due to this federal rule (which, i indrrstand, has actually been in place for a loooong time). The rationale for the rule is supposedly to prevent meemaw from confusing brake fluid with, idk, windshield wiper fluid, and adding windshield wiper fluid to her brake fluid reserve.

I noticed recently that one of my preferred online parts dealer lists Super Blue as “no longer available” on their website. But undoubtedly plenty of customers like you (and retailers) didn’t get the memo. On the other hand, a trackside vendor hawking racing gear at a road course the past couple of weekends had some cans of Super Blue for sale on a shelf.

FWIW, if you do a LOT of threshold braking (I do), I highly recommend Castol SRF. Good stuff. Minimal fade. Seems to last me awhile.


71 posted on 10/04/2013 12:01:18 PM PDT by bluetick (If you're going to err, err on the side of liberty.)
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To: golux
I replace the smoke on my wiring harness once every three thousand miles, and am careful to use genuige Lucas OEM smoke.

Waste of good money. There is plenty more smoke in those wires. Just replace the fuses with ones that carry double the amps, and you'll see.

72 posted on 10/04/2013 12:05:53 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Signalman

Make sure the mechanic checks the tension on the hydrophramic sprocket and tops off the blinker fluid. A must!


73 posted on 10/04/2013 12:11:36 PM PDT by BibleGunClinger
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To: 9422WMR

Changing the fluid and flushing the transmission are two different things.

Changing the fluid is still a good idea. Don’t let them sell you the power flush service for $200, when a drain and fill should be under $60 and maybe less.


74 posted on 10/04/2013 12:18:36 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
I've used synthetic oil for over 20 years in over 6 cars. Here are my observations:

1. If you have a new car and plan on keeping it for about 125,000 miles, you are wasting money on synthetic oil because of the cost of synthetic oil.

1. If you plan on keeping it "until the wheels fall off," synthetic oil will ensure that the engine runs indefinitely (my 2000 Malibu has 225,000 miles and does not burn any appreciable amount of oil and I change the oil and filter every 6,000 miles and do not need to add oil between oil changes).

3. If you buy a used vehicle with less than 50,000 and is less than 5 years old, you can change to synthetic with no issues (but check the oil every 500 miles just to see if you are burning any oil).

4. If you have a car that is older than 5 years and has more than 50,000 miles, you will probably start to burn/leak oil, because the engine has begun to wear and synthetic oil will find those wear points.

5. If you convert to synthetic oil from regular oil and you start to burn oil, you are still getting the protection from synthetic oil, you just need to add oil between oil changes. For instance, in 1992, I bought a 1987 chevy caprice (307 olds engine) with 87,000 miles. It was burning about 1/2 a quart of oil per 1,000 miles. When I switched to synthetic, it started burning about a quart per 1,000 miles. I got rid of the car in 2005 and it had 260,000 miles and still only burned a quart per 1,000 miles. I got rid of it, because it was rusting from the inside out; which cannot be corrected. When it had about 210,000 miles I had to replace the intake manifold gasket; which allowed me to look inside parts of the engine. The inside of the engine was spotless- it looked it had been steam cleaned and coated with oil.

6. If you convert and older car to synthetic there is a risk that when the synthetic will cause a piece of sludge to clog up an oil return hole; which can cause engine failure. My 55 year old mechanic has only seen this happen once in his 30 year career.

75 posted on 10/04/2013 12:22:38 PM PDT by fini
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To: Signalman
I know the difference between a 6 ply tire and a bias-ply tire

By the first sentence, I can see he is not as smart as he thinks. Bias ply are different than radial tires. Either can be 2 ply, 4 ply, 6 ply, 8 ply, 10 ply, etc. Bias refers to the design, not the number of plies.

76 posted on 10/04/2013 12:37:36 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
How often do I need to repack muffler bearings?

That used to be the joke pulled on every new mechanic - sending him to all the parts houses in town to find a muffler bearing. Every one was in on the joke and had "just sold" the last one.

77 posted on 10/04/2013 12:40:36 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Signalman
In light of brake fluid’s sensitivity to water, automakers go to great lengths to ensure your brake system is completely and totally sealed.

Pure BS. The cap on the brake fluid reservoir has a breather hole (hint: brake pads wear down over time). Any competent shop can do a 'boiling point' test on the brake fluid in no time flat and tell you when it's time to change it. And you should (~2 year interval). Moisture in the brake fluid will also in time corrode the brake cylinders - $$$.

78 posted on 10/04/2013 12:40:44 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: WayneS
And you change the air in your tires every 15K miles, right?

I usually do it the first few days of summer and again the first few days of winter. :-)

79 posted on 10/04/2013 12:45:12 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
You will go through brake pads many times over on an auto trans. vs. a manual trans.

If you're using your transmission to slow down instead of the brakes you'll save money on brake jobs but at the expense of accelerated clutch wear.

Brakes are always easier and cheaper to replace than a clutch.

80 posted on 10/04/2013 12:59:44 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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