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Todd Is a Reflection of Breaking Bad’s Other Characters
Vulture.com ^ | September 10, 2013 | Margaret Lyons

Posted on 09/10/2013 11:21:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Secret Agent Man

“i think gomez and hank are done. the foreshadowing call to marie, i may not be home for awhile, teary love you stuff.”

Notice Hank also talked about calling the Tribal Police to let them know where they were. That’s what he should have done, but instead he made the call to Marie first. If he hadn’t been in such a hurry to brag about catching Walt, backup would have been on its way.

So, that mistake could be his undoing.


121 posted on 09/10/2013 1:31:34 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

why do you think that? millions of baby girls are in pink stuff.


122 posted on 09/10/2013 1:32:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Sawdring

I wouldn’t say I’m “rooting” for Walt - but I still wanna like the guy. Even though he’s done some evil things, sometimes they were for semi-good causes. I just don’t like the fact that he got so involved in what he originally hated. He just wanted to make that original $175,000 or whatever and then he was going to stop. There was always something pulling him back in, be it Jesse, Tuco or Gus, etc. Now we have Todd’s uncle pulling him back in.
I agree that I was astonished that Pinkman turned on him like that. However- Walt has talked quite a lot of mess to Jesse over the course of the show....calling him “stupid”, “idiot”, etc.
I didn’t start watching this show till last summer and caught up by watching 3, sometimes 4 episodes at a time. I was hooked. I’m wondering if the last show will lead to a spin-off?


123 posted on 09/10/2013 1:32:27 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Secret Agent Man
As soon as Walt said “oh man everybody dies in this one” watching scarface, I knew how the ending was going to go.

Nice!
124 posted on 09/10/2013 1:33:39 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Secret Agent Man

>>Lots of times people forget governemt agents can lie to you.<<

Truth.

Or, “church” as Skinny Pete would say.


125 posted on 09/10/2013 1:34:11 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: FredZarguna

While I agree we’ll have to disagree, Hank gets in the bar fight while deep into PTSD due to the Tuco shooting. It wasn’t a matter of him wanting to prove he wasn’t a coward. It’s not an altogether uncommon result of PTSD. Something he tried to hide from everyone.


126 posted on 09/10/2013 1:35:16 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

>>why do you think that?<<

More tongue-in-cheek than anything...a play on Gilligan’s use of color schemes and the creepy foreshadowing of that damn teddy bear...


127 posted on 09/10/2013 1:36:03 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: Boogieman

excellent pickup about him not callign dea for backup, or tribal police. That crossed my mind too, he had to brag to marie he got his “white whale”. Poppa Doyle- or whoever the French connection officer was, he gets to put the cuffs on the criminal and frog march him to jail. I think that phone call was the critical mistake. Not thinking Walt would call someone for help was a critical mistake too.

See this is where Hank’s character flaws/weaknesses have done him in too. So fixated on getting him at all costs. Screw Jesse. Screw other junkies and snitches. They’re scum. If they die so be it. This whole show, has had all the cahracters under stress, showing inherently what’s in them, good and bad, and how they deal with it. Some rationalize it away. Some pull back but then get back into it. Some appear calm but one more thing may blow their control over themselves (marie, losing Hank ex).


128 posted on 09/10/2013 1:37:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: babyfreep

>>caught up by watching 3, sometimes 4 episodes at a time.<<

Same here. My wife and I would ‘binge-watch’ several episodes a night.

12am...”Just ONE more, c’mon..”
“We got work in the morning, we’re gonna die!”


129 posted on 09/10/2013 1:37:50 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
12am...”Just ONE more, c’mon..”

LOL...same here!
130 posted on 09/10/2013 1:39:46 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

That’s a fantastic point.

I think Holly gets killed too. Two ways. Lydia orders an attack on the family and Holly dies in the process. remember Walt sweared to her on his children’s lives, Lydia is fixated with her own daughter, etc. It would be ironic as Holly was a main reason pushing walt to get into the meth business.

Other way is Marie loses it after Hank’s death, tries to take Holly again and somehow accidentally injures/kills her in the process. Would kind of go to her klepto tendencies but also her genuinely trying to get Holly out of that family.


131 posted on 09/10/2013 1:40:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: babyfreep
I was astonished that Pinkman turned on him like that

It was the shooting of the boy. Jesse has a real soft spot for kids, and the boy being shot, and Walt just continuing to do his thing, whistling while doing it, that is what Jesse can't get over. That is what is driving Jesse at this moment. And, also, fear that Walt will come after him. And, the realization about Brock's poisoning and Walt's involvement in that.

But, the shooting death of that little boy was the catalyst for Jesse's current behavior.

132 posted on 09/10/2013 1:40:39 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: babyfreep
I’m wondering if the last show will lead to a spin-off?

Word is they are kicking around a spin off for Saul Goodman.

133 posted on 09/10/2013 1:41:28 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I never watched Malcom. Didn’t know Bryan was a tightie-whitie kind of guy.

I highly recommend watching Malcolm. If possible, do it shortly before or after BB. They're all on Netflix.
134 posted on 09/10/2013 1:41:55 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I think he’s a lot closer to 52 now than we know. I would bet more than half the year he’s been 51 is over.


135 posted on 09/10/2013 1:42:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

That bugged me too. But what bugged me more was Walt losing total control when Jessie called him claiming he had found the money and was burning it.

Walt was screaming confessions and drving like a madman. Heisenberg would never have reacted that way.

It was almost too shark jumpy for me.


136 posted on 09/10/2013 1:42:58 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: FredZarguna

He won’t save Jesse. Cardinal sin of ratting out Walt - AND working with - the cops. Walt - NEVER the DEA. Never.

He thought Jesse was trying to kill him, not sell him out to the cops. He was trying to talk with him even though he was worried Jesse may still want to kill him. With Jesse bringing the DEA and workign with them, no.


137 posted on 09/10/2013 1:45:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

He wasn’t Heisenberg in that episode. He was wearing beige. He hasn’t been Heisenberg since the last half.


138 posted on 09/10/2013 1:45:32 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I think the prison assassination montage to “Start All Over Again” is the first, Crystal Blue Persuasion is next.


139 posted on 09/10/2013 1:46:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lazamataz

Or even better... Walt escapes the country, and flees to Syria where he tries to restart his meth operation with a new assistant supplied by the Syrian government. Then, when he is off running an errand, Haboob the assistant pours the wrong chemical in the batch, resulting in a nerve gas “attack” on a civilian area.


140 posted on 09/10/2013 1:47:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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