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To: Menehune56; cableguymn

It’s so too bad every thread about Ted Cruz turns into this.

Ted Cruz himself has been asked about this absurdity that being born in Canada to an American mother who was working there at the time makes him ineligible to run for President.

Ted Cruz opined that natural born citizen does NOT mean born on U.S. soil but means, a citizen WHEN BORN, which he views as the opposite of becoming a citizen by going through a naturalization process.

Natural born vs. naturalized.

That’s the positioning of the two kinds of citizenship, per Cruz himself.

It really has nothing to do with Obama. With or without Obama, Cruz would say the same thing about himself.

You will find people here who will claim that Ted Cruz is a Canadian. You will even find people who will claim that he is CUBAN. Oh yes...because his father was born in Cuba and immigrated to America before marrying his mother here. I’ll just throw this into the silliness pot - they have him being so foreign that he isn’t an American AT ALL. So it’s not even needed to claim he’s not natural born (in their view of natural born) because he’s not even American.

I stick with what Cruz says about himself. He has plenty of company from legal scholars, but there are always these outliers...


80 posted on 08/09/2013 10:27:23 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Thank you for clearing that up. I honestly didn’t know.

I originally started with Mike Lee as my guy, but I switched to Cruz.


83 posted on 08/09/2013 10:33:26 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: txrangerette

That is interesting, and it makes a lot of sense. So, what you are saying is that Cruz was born in Canada, but he was NEVER a Canadian citizen, but always an American citizen, correct?

I have actually never thought about this.

I happen to believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, and that seems to be the “official” take on things, so aside from the idea that maybe he wasn’t actually born there, it’s irrelevant for this discussion. (I think Obama should have been dq’d for pres. due to the fact that he’s a communist, but clearly that view was in minority, in the country and the MSM, not here, of course!)

My recollection about McCain was that he was born in Panama, but that was due to the fact that his father was in military service there. My understanding is that while being in military service in a foreign land you are “in the US”. Nevertheless I recall congress passing some pro-forma bill declaring McCain “eligible” to be president.

Now would they have to do that for Cruz?

I’m so glad I read your post!


93 posted on 08/10/2013 12:51:10 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: txrangerette; Liz

Ted Cruz opined that natural born citizen does NOT mean born on U.S. soil but means, a citizen WHEN BORN, which he views as the opposite of becoming a citizen by going through a naturalization process.
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so does that mean that an anchor baby, the child of 2 not under the jurisdiction illegal aliens , if he/she was “born on US soil” is eligible to be the president of the United states, having no connection, regard for or loyalty other than the US was the birthplace ???

BTW the father of Ted Cruz was not an American citizen when he was born...


112 posted on 08/10/2013 5:11:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: txrangerette

I didn’t know the back ground. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.


159 posted on 08/10/2013 7:41:12 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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