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Brought home a new puppy yesterday; he's got Parvo
22 July 2013 | Rides a Red Horse

Posted on 07/22/2013 2:29:33 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse

The wife and I just brought home a German Shepherd pup yesterday. He seemed "shy" but later I realized he was lethargic. He ate a bit but not like what you would expect from a two month old Shepherd.

We took him to the Vet today to have him checked out and he tested positive for Parvo. He hadn't started puking yet and they put him on IVs so with a little luck he should recover.

Our other dog is up to date on his shots and the cats are supposed to be immune. I went around and disinfected everything he touched. The vet said they have a 90% success rate so it looks good.

I contacted the family who sold us the pup. They called back and let me know the last one from the litter died.

Does anyone here have experience with Parvo?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; parvo; pets; puppy; sickpuppy
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To: shotgun

That’s said. Dogs our are partners and friends. Best listeners.


61 posted on 07/22/2013 4:45:15 PM PDT by airedale
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Hi, You said you disinfected everything the dog touched but didn't indicate how. Parvovirus can be killed with a 12:1 water/bleach solution and you should use it on all floors, patios, that can handle the bleach. If you have plastic food/water bowls get rid of them and get new ones. Your vaccinated dog may still react to the virus, albeit mildly. Ask your vet if he/she recommends a preemptive treatment of penicillin and keep a close eye on him/her. Please keep in mind that Parvo can survive freezing temperatures so that should give you an idea of how hardy this nasty virus is. You have to treat clothing you were wearing when you were in contact with the infected dog, as well.

I hope your puppy pulls through and your other dog is okay, as well. Please keep us posted!

62 posted on 07/22/2013 5:03:52 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

We were informed that he hadn’t eaten much since Thursday (we picked him up Sunday). He ate a bit for us but not much. We already had an appointment set up for today for shots and check up.

The vet thinks he’ll be alright but it might take a day or two.


63 posted on 07/22/2013 5:12:01 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Do I have any experiences with Parvo? You mean the 32nanometer icosahedral DNA virus that takes as few as 8 virions to establish disease and cause diarrhea and cellular death? In 1978 early Summer I was a vet tech working in a virology lab when the first cases appeared. We knew it was a novel virus but could not reproduce it in the lab and thereby fulfill Koch's Postulates. Someone in the lab thought to try and grow the virus on just about every cell line we had and finally we were able to grow it on Feline Kidney cells which was the first inkling that it was a virus from a feline mutation. Under the electron microscope we saw the viral particles en masse which were the smallest we'd seen at the time. The virus killed puppies and old dogs also and there at first were three types of Parvo, two enteric and one cardiac. The cardiac version killed the dogs quickly and targeted the myocardial muscles but after a while it disappeared. The two enteric versions, KF 11 and KF strain, were identified and are still active today. Every once in awhile an unlearned vet discovers there are more than one strain and proclaims to his clients that the dog owners need to vaccinate against the new strain. In reality, the newer vaccines already contain the ability to protect against the strains that the Parvo produces. Parvo replicates so quickly that literally millions of viral particles are produced. Also note that Parvo requires a fast growing cell cycle to reproduce and is why it is lethal to young fast growing dogs...just like the German Shepherd. It is postulated that Rottweilers, Dobermans, Weimereiners, German Shepherds, and a few other breeds have a novel receptor that makes the infection of Parvo likely.

Treatment against Parvo requires maintaining homeostasis. This means treating against septicaemia, dehydration, shock, and any other manifestation that is presented by the rapid cellular death of the alimentary tract cells...from the mouth to the anus. The absolute worst manifestation is the protein losing enteropathy that requires whole blood transfusions, volume expanders and constant electrolyte monitoring. I hate this form because it is the most formidable. Our success rate is around 75%. Nothing makes me happier than to send a puppy home that has almost met the reaper with this disease and nothing is sadder and disheartening after I have worked so hard and still lose a puppy.

Vaccination is the key for some but not the whole answer to the equation. Some dogs still come down with Parvo after a series of vaccinations...the puppies just don't produce immunity. I wish your puppy well.

Just FYI, Parvo mutates from one species to another around every 40 years. Around 1900 it was Aleutian Mink Disease. In the 1930's it mutated into the Feline species, namely the disease Feline Panleukopenia or Feline Distemper. In 1978 at a Collie show in Mobile, Alabama, it mutated and spread worldwide in a matter of months into the canine population. We are overdue for the virus to mutate into another specie. It could be humans because of our close proximity to the domesticated Feline and Canine populations. Just food for thought.

64 posted on 07/22/2013 5:12:13 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Responsibility2nd; Blood of Tyrants; chrisinoc

Sounds cruel, but take him back where you got him. Get your money back.


My wife is already attached. We bought the dog from the family of one of my JROTC Cadets. We had bought the dog and left him with the family until after we got back from a cadet leadership camp. During the trip, I found out the kids mother was leaving her job to take care of her sister (cancer).

If they were actual breeders I’d demand that they pay for part of the vet bill but they haven’t got much and the litter wasn’t intended. This could have been avoided with a $20 Parvo vaccine.

If I could do it again, I would have either taken the dog and boarded it with our other pets or at least taken him to the vet for shots and brought him back.


65 posted on 07/22/2013 5:19:30 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rockingham

That which does not kill us...


66 posted on 07/22/2013 5:21:12 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; vetvetdoug

Listen to vetvetdoug. His advice saved my dog more than once and (sadly) he diagnosed my dog’s last illness on line, even when my local vet had a different (wrong) answer. I took him to another vet for a 2nd opinion and found that he had fatal pancreatic cancer. I’m still heartbroken. But vetvetdoug’s advice gave him a lot of comfort from his skin allergies in the spring and fall. And vetvetdoug was absolutly right with his diagnosis,just from my description on line.


67 posted on 07/22/2013 5:23:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sue em first!! I hate puppy mills and irresponsible people who raise dogs for sale.


68 posted on 07/22/2013 5:23:52 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

And he had a littermate that had died? What kind of people are these breeders?


69 posted on 07/22/2013 5:25:50 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I went through this years ago. The vet said to ensure the dogs bedding was washed with bleach to kill the virus in the home. Awful illness for the dog.


70 posted on 07/22/2013 5:28:20 PM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: skr

Thanks


71 posted on 07/22/2013 5:32:10 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: vetvetdoug

God bless and keep you.
You are absolutely the very best and ever so kind.


72 posted on 07/22/2013 5:32:10 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Add that to the cost they paid - and that eqauals a rip-off.

Of course - if they’re already too emotionally attached - there is nothing they likely can do.


Yep and yep. I’m sure the family only charged to make sure the dog didn’t end up getting the “free dog treatment.” People who won’t pay for dogs usually don’t take decent care of them.

They cut the price for us and we gave them a little extra to keep him. What a deal...


73 posted on 07/22/2013 5:34:33 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Donnafrflorida

It’s a virus. It usually doesn’t bother dogs over two years old. Once he recovers he should be immune for life.

We definitely worm our pets.


74 posted on 07/22/2013 5:36:04 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

We had a Jack Russell puppy with parvo. I was told he got it because I took him out around the neighborhood before he had ALL his puppy shots. He was weak and lethargic and looked near death. After a big vet bill and drugs he recovered just fine.


75 posted on 07/22/2013 5:39:28 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: ScottinVA

We bought the dog from the family of one of my JROTC Cadets. We had bought the dog and left him with the family until after we got back from a cadet leadership camp.

They hadn’t planned on the puppies but they failed to keep two of their dogs separated...


76 posted on 07/22/2013 5:39:55 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Crusher138

Thanks for the encouraging story. We’re hoping for the best.


77 posted on 07/22/2013 5:40:37 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Spirochete

I might try that.


78 posted on 07/22/2013 5:42:17 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Jean S

I’m sorry. My wife needed me to spend some time with her. This has really upset her.


79 posted on 07/22/2013 5:43:59 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Bigg Red

Thanks.


80 posted on 07/22/2013 5:44:58 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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