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Birthday President G.W.Bush cousin to Obama, & Cheney & Romney too! Are we already under a Dynasty?
July, 6, 2013 | Lee Martell

Posted on 07/06/2013 9:03:06 PM PDT by lee martell

I certainly miss having a President I can respect and admire without holding my hands over my eyes. Former President George W. Bush turns 67 today! Like many conservatives, I wish he was still president, maybe just under the guidance of someone other than a certain Karl Rove, who discouraged President Bush from pushing back on the incredible level of disrespect the left dumped on him for eight long years. I can only wonder what it means that this many influential people are from the same family line? It's amazing when you think about it all, but quite true. The Bush family is related to Obama, they are cousins 11 times removed. I already knew that the Bush's were related to John Kerry. I recall thinking during the 2004 campaign, how can Kerry be so cruel to his cousin? However, I figured that the potential power of holding the presidency would easily trump any flimsy family ties. All I can figure is wealthy families tend to marry other wealthy families, so the money remains somewhat concentrated within certain professions and certain organizations run by those families. Still, It's a little disconcerting, to be more or less 'owned' and utilized by just a few family lines, even today. I think the 'most friendly and trustworthy' John Huntsman is also related to the Romney line. And the beat goes on.


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1 posted on 07/06/2013 9:03:06 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

If you have family dating to colonial times chances are you are related to others who can date that far. I am related to Bush through the Bollings, who happened to be a most fertile family.


2 posted on 07/06/2013 9:08:05 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: lee martell

W is a class act, but lets drop the rose colored glasses act.


3 posted on 07/06/2013 9:08:45 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: lee martell
The Bush family is related to Obama, they are cousins 11 times removed.

Heck, we're probably all cousins 11 times removed. Or maybe even 10.

4 posted on 07/06/2013 9:09:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: lee martell

Uh, no, we’re not under a family dynasty even if several leading politicians are distant cousins. Being somebody’s 11th cousin does not a dynasty make.

The worst dynasty we are under is that of a ruling elite. It wouldn’t matter if none of them were related, or if all of them were distant cousins. The problem is that the little people in America have been taken over by a distant elite that is running roughshod over “we the people”.


5 posted on 07/06/2013 9:13:03 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: lee martell

Sorry, meant that for other Bush thread.


6 posted on 07/06/2013 9:13:21 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: lee martell

Hope you’re wearing your nomex suit.

GW moved us closer to the left and closer to totalitarianism. Wish I could take back my first vote for him.


7 posted on 07/06/2013 9:16:29 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

I think there are very few people here who had no problems with GWB and what he did. Patriot Act. Idiot SCOTUS attempted appointment. DHS. TSA, and officerizing glorified baggage handlers - and now molesters. On Obama’s request beginning QE1.


8 posted on 07/06/2013 9:25:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lee martell
The Bush family is related to Obama, they are cousins 11 times removed.

You can be related to anyone on Earth at around 40th cousin, so 11th cousin isn't impressive.

9 posted on 07/06/2013 9:30:42 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: txrangerette

“We the People” elected Obama. Ain’t populism great, retards?


10 posted on 07/06/2013 9:41:00 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Add on medicare part D, and you’ve got one heckuva list.


11 posted on 07/06/2013 9:49:28 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Clemenza

Universal suffrage rocks!


12 posted on 07/06/2013 9:49:59 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: lee martell
I certainly miss having a President I can respect and admire without holding my hands over my eyes. Former President George W. Bush turns 67 today!

What could the second sentence possibly have to do with the first?

You'd have to ignore a whole lotta the last decade, from Chief Justice Roberts to expanding Medicare to the immigration debacle to the cronyism to "compassionate conservative" to showing Obama you don't actually have to enforce laws to... well, to any number of things, really, if you wanted to "respect" George W. Bush.
13 posted on 07/06/2013 9:53:21 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: andyk

We are all suffering from universal suffrage. I am sick of all the populist BS that believes that the same low information sheeple who brought us Obama are not representative of the popular will. They ARE the popular will which is the problem.


14 posted on 07/06/2013 9:59:33 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: andyk

Yeah, and don’t forget when he slammed those brave American Patriot volunteers, ‘The Minutemen’, who were trying to protect our southern border, ‘Vigilantes’. Or that the muzzies were just really a ‘Religion of Peace’ comment of his. Good God.


15 posted on 07/06/2013 10:05:55 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: lee martell

11?! Seriously?! That is an extraordinarily distant relationship.

Pick two random people on the street. They’re typically at most 7 times removed.


16 posted on 07/06/2013 10:17:23 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: bobby.223

And he’s coming out in favor of the current version of “immigration reform”, the amnesty BS he couldn’t get passed.


17 posted on 07/06/2013 10:21:26 PM PDT by South40
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To: lee martell

We have Obama as president because voters were reacting to the disastrous presidency of Bush.


18 posted on 07/06/2013 10:38:37 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Clemenza

I am sure that we can review Mark Twain’s suggestion to ‘enlarge’ the franchise, giving extra votes to those who have more money, or more college degrees and have a little laugh.

There are a lot of posters that I think of as being very wrong. I do think that denying them the franchise is probably the wrong path to follow, as it can be used against good people as much as it can be used against bad people, and perhaps more.


19 posted on 07/06/2013 10:46:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: smoothsailing; All

For what ever it is worth, and I am not bragging - I can trace my “lineage” back to John and Priscilla, who arrived on the Mayflower, many moons ago.

So what, big freaking deal!

It doesn’t make me any more worthy a human being than the latest legal immigrant, who went through far more paperwork and hassles, than my forbears ever had to endure, to obtain his/her citizenship!

Me and thousands of John and Pricilla’s other descendants, wanted a better life, and we are the beneficiaries of their bravery - to risk the high seas and the difficulties of crossing the Atlantic, to face an untamed wilderness. So those of us who can trace our ancestry back to them have nothing to brag about.

Would we now take that risk?

Striking out for the “new world” wasn’t for the faint of heart then, so why now do we coddle newcomers as if they are incompetent, unable to care for themselves, learn the language, adapt to our laws and freedoms, so needing endless generations of our tax-payer support.

Why are we now so worried, afraid, intimidated, trying to figure out how to find a way to escape the tracking of the IRS, FBI, ATF, TSA, NSA, HSA, and assorted other alphabet agencies.

It took John and Priscilla no more courage than it took the MacPhersons, O’Brians, Napolitanos,Eckstroms, Phaths, etc. & any of the other immigrants from foreign lands who came to AMERICA so they could be free. But, our government cripples the newcomers, instead of giving them the freedom we all enjoyed, to strive on our own. So the “helping hand of liberalism strikes again”, enslaving and suffocating them, then turning them to the dark side of learning how to manipulate the “system”.

All left their homeland, praying for a better, freer future. I am ashamed of how their hopes for the future are being destroyed by our non-sensical government fallacies, and our citizens failing to comprehend the difference between teaching a man to fish, versus giving him a plastic card, so he can get in line to claim his daily fish once he gets to the .gov “fish window”. (and we all know those fish stink, because of all the many hands they have to go through.)

I respect all legal, whether they be Welsh, Scots, Irish, Italians, Germans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Koreans, etc, for they all came here for a better life.

A life where they could work hard, exercise their talents, and raise their children to strive harder and higher to become everything they could attain.

Grandsons of illiterate immigrants have graduated from MIT, Harvard, Stanford with honors.

We forget that only little more than half a century ago that many bright and talented people left school in the third grade, or the eighth grade. They were needed to work, to help their families get ahead.

Many of them, despite a lack of formal schooling, used their talents, lived good lives, created solid businesses, and raised intelligent and productive families, and children who fulfilled their dreams.

They are just as much as worthy of honor and recognition as those of us who came a bit earlier, for all of our immigrant parents hoped that hard work would offer a better life for their children and grandchildren.

That said - our present immigration policy is sentencing illegals to failure, and I just can’t wrap my head around what our elected idiots are trying to accomplish.

We now live in “interesting times”, where we must be careful about what we say, right?


20 posted on 07/06/2013 11:02:09 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: WilliamIII

Obama IS Bush on steroids.....


21 posted on 07/06/2013 11:27:34 PM PDT by yadent
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To: bobby.223; South40

Yep on 15 and 17


22 posted on 07/06/2013 11:31:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: piytar
Pick two random people on the street. They’re typically at most 7 times removed.

Yes, pick any two random people on the street of a small town, and they will typically be related at most 7 times removed.

I am a hobby genealogist, and have identified by name roughly 5,000 people in my mother's family tree, alone (I estimate that there are another couple thousand "missing.") There are several fair-sized towns in Redwood County and Brown County, MN - towns I've never visited, incidentally - where I would be third-, fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-cousins with a large percentage of the people I met randomly on the street. (Being a sixth-cousin means that one has a pair of great-great-great-great-great-grandparents in common with the other person.)

My most-interesting observations about my family tree:

1) Lots of people in the U.S. are born, grow up, and die within 100 miles of the same spot. This was especially true of my grandparents', great-grandparents', and great-great-grandparents' generations, but even of my generation, unbelievably many maintain residency in the same corner of the state (apart from their college days, etc.).

2) Americans of Scandinavian descent are remarkably long-lived.

3) After a while, most obituaries become boringly similar (Note to self: Write your own obituary while you still have the time!).

4) Establishing a "dynasty" requires - besides herculean efforts - that the members of that nascent dynasty be aware of and have agreement on what they have set out to do, but it is possible to achieve and maintain "super-wealthy" status by dint of one's collective efforts - by essentially forming a "family syndicate." The main barriers are a) divorce, and b) the resultant dispersal of wealth to non-family members (step-relatives). (However, the one instance of success I've identified in my own extended clan was founded in the gray beginning on what would be considered today to be a grossly unethical act.)

Regards,

23 posted on 07/06/2013 11:56:03 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: andyk
And we could have had President Algore?
24 posted on 07/07/2013 1:16:36 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: jacquej

Your posting is very well stated and capsules the issue.


25 posted on 07/07/2013 2:31:32 AM PDT by octex
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To: MacMattico

Same thing.


26 posted on 07/07/2013 3:03:30 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: alexander_busek

I, too, am a Bush cousin. But think about it: anybody whose ancestors were early American settlers, as the Bush family ancestors were, is likely to be related to other descendants of early American colonists. There were so few people — and they had such large families — that it’s not in the least bit surprising. So the Bushes and I share one set of many greats grandparents, big deal.


27 posted on 07/07/2013 3:43:53 AM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: lee martell

Oh Geez, we have George Walton, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence in our family.


28 posted on 07/07/2013 4:01:40 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: aft_lizard

“If you have family dating to colonial times chances are you are related to others who can date that far. I am related to Bush through the Bollings, who happened to be a most fertile family.”

I wonder if Eric Bolling, on Fox News Cable TV (The Five and Cashin In) is also related to Bush and you.


29 posted on 07/07/2013 4:03:04 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

Y’all should be happy. I have a branch in my family tree that leads to none other than former WV Senator “sheets” Byrd! Talk about embarassing...


30 posted on 07/07/2013 4:10:29 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: lee martell

I do not desire Bush back- any Bush. We would not be any better off with Bush now than we are with the kenyan. Bush would get more of hiss own brand of socialism through the Congress than the kenyan is getting and the logic of the situation and his previous Acts suggests he would have given us full on Single Payer Bushcare by now.


31 posted on 07/07/2013 5:04:07 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: lee martell

It is a family dynasty. All Presidents except for one(Van Buren) are descended from King John of the Magna Carta Robin Hood fame.


32 posted on 07/07/2013 6:54:56 AM PDT by amnestynone
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To: aft_lizard

There were not that many people here during the 1600’s, so the families that were here are possibly related to most of the population back then. I know I am. I’m even related to Hugh Hefner, whose family goes back to Gov. Bradford, as mine does, and probably the Bush family, and even the (ugh) president’s mother’s family.


33 posted on 07/07/2013 6:55:35 AM PDT by MondoQueen (ii)
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To: lee martell

Certain organizations have already selected the next president we just don’t know it yet.
Don’t know what organizations but bet you have to be a made man to know.


34 posted on 07/07/2013 8:21:39 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: andyk

“Wish I could take back my first vote for him”

I wish I could take back my second vote for him. It appears I’m a slow learner.


35 posted on 07/07/2013 9:39:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: lee martell

As near as I can tell I’m not related to any of them and damn sure wouldn’t admit it if I was.


36 posted on 07/07/2013 10:42:43 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Toucan Dance

My clan tended to stay out in the mountains, where I wish I was now.


37 posted on 07/07/2013 10:45:25 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: MondoQueen

I’m not related to any of them. I go back to a Jacob Urban who arrived here in 1753, fought in the American Revolution and moved to Pike County. You can watch every ten years in the census and watch the name move westward down the coal strip in Pennsylvania. Nobody is a relative of Obama, Bush or Kerry. Thank Goodness!


38 posted on 07/07/2013 11:07:14 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: highball

You may have a point there, I probably should have reversed the two statements, logically speaking. Some more of my ADD tendencies shining through...Oh look! a grey squirrel eating a raspberry!!


39 posted on 07/07/2013 12:27:34 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: jacquej

You should be and rightfully are proud of your Mayflower ancestors. Lucky for you the records are available and accurate. Can you imagine how scary I must have been to literally leave everything behind like that? The fact that many left due to political oppression served as a catalyst, but one still needed to be strong to do this with any modicum of satisfaction. The closest we may get to that kind of Marco-Polo courage is going to be maybe 15 years from now, when the man who owns Virgin Air has raised enough money to start the first colony on Mars. He will provide for your one way ticket to Mars. Your space ship will be designed to disintegrate once you reach the red soils of the Martian lands. I probably will NOT be among the first ten people.


40 posted on 07/07/2013 12:47:05 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

Nothing much to be proud of, really. I didn’t pick them, and there must be millions of us that have descended.

I was just lucky enough to have been able to trace it back. And, for whatever it is worth, there are a lot of disreputable apples in the old family tree.

One the other side of my father’s family, (Scots) - had to leave Scotland at night, rowing out to a boat - one step ahead of the English - had something to do with “The Clearances” and disobeying the law.


41 posted on 07/07/2013 2:25:04 PM PDT by jacquej
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