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Russia is making threats and threatened to overthrow our government.

Posted on 02/28/2013 7:23:02 PM PST by jongaltsr

Has anyone noted that Putin keeps making bold statements about open conflict with the United States.

I question the fact that "He is not exactly stupid" even if he is a bit arrogant.

Does anyone have any insight or thoughts on why Putin would make open threats when it would not to be to his advantage to do so if he REALLY intended to attack us?

My "Logical" mind says he is making such statements just to intimidate our politicians and NOT to forewarn an actual invasion.

ANY THOUGHTS?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 0flexible; conspiracy; obama; overthrow; russia; russiathreats
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1 posted on 02/28/2013 7:23:17 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

Well, in Russia they have a flat tax of 13%. May not be so bad after all, plus all of those hot Russian and Ukrainian women...


2 posted on 02/28/2013 7:25:28 PM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: jongaltsr

I think I would prefer the Russians...


3 posted on 02/28/2013 7:27:01 PM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: jongaltsr
Well I'll be. Maybe Putin isn't such a bad guy afterall.
4 posted on 02/28/2013 7:28:10 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: jongaltsr

Obama messaged him thru Medvedev that he’d “be more flexible after the election.” So now they are testing his flexibility...


5 posted on 02/28/2013 7:28:14 PM PST by merryberry (was once a sad berry)
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To: jongaltsr

Part of it is bluster for his Russian subjects....Russia is still a Second World economy with a male population either drunk or dying from alcoholism.

Part of it is also Putin knowing full well that Obama is a weak leader....with an even weaker GOP refusing to act like an opposition party. Putin knows he is not dealing with a Ronald Reagan


6 posted on 02/28/2013 7:31:32 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jongaltsr.
Does anyone have any insight or thoughts on why Putin would make open threats when it would not to be to his advantage to do so if he REALLY intended to attack us?
He makes those threats because we haven't gotten around to killing his sorry ass.


7 posted on 02/28/2013 7:33:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Well, I’m certainly not going to say that Putin and Obama are in cahoots. Not me. No way. Not in the good old USA.


8 posted on 02/28/2013 7:34:30 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Nobama is not a weak leader, he is the best mole commies ever had. He is going full speed converting to USSA.


9 posted on 02/28/2013 7:34:50 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepisssssed)
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To: jongaltsr
My "Logical" mind says he is making such statements just to intimidate our politicians and NOT to forewarn an actual invasion.

My gut instinct agrees with you. Putin doesn't like obomas arrogance. I think he likes tweaking him. It's fun. We should all do it (because "The devil, the proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked" ).

10 posted on 02/28/2013 7:36:13 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: jongaltsr

From what I’ve seen in the news, Putin has never struck me as stupid.

I actually have not derived any idea of what his core beliefs are, or his goals or intentions. Just that he is a savvy politician.

I think he can easily outmaneuver Obama, and that worries me as an American.

He seems to hold his cards pretty close to his vest, whereas Obamna’s are face-up on the table for any observer. Not a very effective poker strategy.

Does anyone have a guess at to what cards Putin is holding?

For instance, if he maintains Russia’s military and diplomatic strength, while the U.S.’s wanes under Obama, and if Putin were to forge an understanding with Israel, where would that leave us?


11 posted on 02/28/2013 7:36:38 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: jongaltsr

I often kicked around the idea of rewriting Red Dawn where the Russians come to help us. B-P B-)


12 posted on 02/28/2013 7:39:37 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Chad N. Freud
Does anyone have a guess at to what cards Putin is holding?

All of them. Putin is ex-KGB. oboma is a little girl with a penis.

13 posted on 02/28/2013 7:40:49 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: jongaltsr; All

14 posted on 02/28/2013 7:44:13 PM PST by potlatch
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To: concerned about politics

Putin is the best of Russia: vigorous, hard, manly and utterly diabolical. Obama is the worse of the US: emasculated, drugged, sexually compromised but also diabolical. O will become ever more obviously and willingly P’s b**ch. That is the only game Putin cares about.


15 posted on 02/28/2013 7:50:24 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: jongaltsr

I think we should offer Putin a trade. He can have DC and most of the Northeast, plus California, if he supplies the South, Plains, MidWest and Western Basin with MiGs, Hinds, training and supplies.

I think it’s a fair trade.


16 posted on 02/28/2013 7:51:18 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: Perdogg

The thing with Putin is that he actually LOVES his country and acts in it’s self-interest. Is that always in our best interest? No, but it’s not something we can say about our current regime either.


17 posted on 02/28/2013 7:52:48 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: concerned about politics
oboma is a little girl with a penis

Hmmm! Are you sure? If he does have one, does he have any balls? He is terminally arrogant, he feels his masters will protect him from anything. Ultimately, he serves the father-of-lies.

18 posted on 02/28/2013 7:52:56 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: jongaltsr

Well, at least we’ll still have traditional marriage.


19 posted on 02/28/2013 7:55:35 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: SeminoleCounty

The primary reason for any anti-US bluster is for Russians. He has more “low information” voters than even we do and they eat up this “super Russia” shite with a spoon.

Even with politcal turmoil between limp GOP and limp-wristed nobama, Pooty knows history and knows even in our weakest moments we ain’t someone to really mess with.


20 posted on 02/28/2013 7:55:44 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: jongaltsr

Our politicians are intimidated by math and shadows.

I hope Putin doesn’t send a strongly worded letter. Obama would surrender.


21 posted on 02/28/2013 7:55:57 PM PST by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: jongaltsr

A leader of Russia has certain perpetual dilemmas, on top of new and pressing ones. A lot of Americans think that if they were in charge of Russia, they would do things the American way, without knowing that it is not only *not* what the Russian people want and need, but that they would hate every bit of it and fight it every inch of the way.

There is an old German saying that “Russia remains Russia”, and it is quite true. So Putin’s quest is to give Russia what it needs and wants, but in the Russian way, by a Russian leader.

For example, Russia has a split personality, at times wanting to be like westerners, especially Europeans; but at other times they become Slavophilic and Asian, seeking the freedom of the vast, open countryside and the Asian way of doing things. Russians love both, but are uncomfortable being in one way or the other for too long.

Right now they are in a Slavophilic cycle, but Putin knows they cannot be isolationist, that Russia has a chance to still matter in world affairs.

And while Putin is all in favor of cherry picking what he likes from Russian history, be it Tsarist or Soviet, he must steer Russia away from either, because on its current path it is dying.

He wants a tightly controlled democracy, and while he will borrow from the Soviets, he realizes that socialism is an utter disaster; and a dangerous one, enough that he does not want the US taking that path. He realizes that a “Soviet America” would be a huge disaster for the world.

Ideally he would prefer a multipolar world with no nation totally dominant. A balance of power.


22 posted on 02/28/2013 7:57:38 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Viennacon

maybe


23 posted on 02/28/2013 8:00:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: KittenClaws
Well, I’m certainly not going to say that Putin and Obama are in cahoots. Not me. No way. Not in the good old USA.

OK, if you won't say it, I will. They are probably in cahoots. I still wonder about the flexibility thing that Obama promised to the Ruskies. Did he mean he would surrender to them, or what?

24 posted on 02/28/2013 8:01:07 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Texas Fossil
oboma is a little girl with a penis

Hmmm! Are you sure? If he does have one, does he have any balls?

No, but I'm pretty sure his "wife" does. She looks more like a man than Putin!

25 posted on 02/28/2013 8:01:45 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SeminoleCounty

Agreed. He could be posturing to influence some small entity we are not aware of, country, group, etc., by beating his chest at us.


26 posted on 02/28/2013 8:01:55 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: X-spurt

I hope you are right.

But, we are not just in a weak moment. We have a weak, traitorous president, who would sell us out in a heartbeat.

He slept through an attack at Benghazi.

He has no will to protect these shores.

He is commander in chief.

A weak moment at this point is optimistic


27 posted on 02/28/2013 8:04:27 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: jongaltsr

And the difference between a Russian-led government and an Obama-led government is...??

(fairer media coverage maybe?)


28 posted on 02/28/2013 8:08:51 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Mark17

I think he meant “You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours”

If Russia helped take the USA down, could they not rule together?

I know that is the simplest of terms, I’m just trying to start the thought process.


29 posted on 02/28/2013 8:08:51 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

Of course, Putin would kick Bambi aside like a dog when all was said and done...


30 posted on 02/28/2013 8:10:47 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: jongaltsr
Simply because Putin is a strong leader that puts his nation first internationally.

While we, on the other hand, get president apology tour.

31 posted on 02/28/2013 8:12:32 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: KittenClaws

My sense tells me, and I think Putin thinks as well, is that regardless of what nobama does, when really necessary the General Command knows what to do to protect America and will do it.

Could be as another post thought, Putin knows how to rib nobama and its a game he likes.

Secondly, Putin and our other adversaries, know that if they ever got here, they would be facing the biggest well armed militia in the world. Red Dawn times millions.


32 posted on 02/28/2013 8:14:13 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: concerned about politics

You mean the head wookie? hee hee hee


33 posted on 02/28/2013 8:16:44 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: KittenClaws
Of course, Putin would kick Bambi aside like a dog when all was said and done...

Yeah, but unlike oboma, at least Putin wouldn't eat him for dinner afterwords.

34 posted on 02/28/2013 8:17:02 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Perdogg

Examples please!


35 posted on 02/28/2013 8:20:10 PM PST by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: jongaltsr

“Russia is making threats and threatened to overthrow our government.”

I thought that was Obama’s job!


36 posted on 02/28/2013 8:20:30 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: X-spurt

I have to concede your point about Russian boots on the ground. Fully half of the USA would be hard to take over for Bambi and Putin together.

And if I think about it, if I were Putin, I’d love poking a stick in the Eagles eye. It’d be fun, it would lessen the eagle and embolden the bear and the dragon.

Now think about chaos. We are very close to chaos here in the states. Chaos creates disorder. My mind thinks faster than I can type. So let me leave it at that for a time.


37 posted on 02/28/2013 8:24:17 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: jongaltsr

Could be the Russkies are preparing the population for a war. A lot of people here are sympathizing with them, but Putin is part of the invisible (yet strangely visible) Communist structure that still rules in Russia today. They’ve simply turned in their Communist credentials and have embraced capitalism, but its the same people with the same ultimate agenda.

Anatoliy Golitysn, a KGB defector, revealed this strategy and predicted the surface-level breakup of Communism. After the United States disarms itself, the end of the plan is East-West convergence under Communist terms.

Not many people truly understand how bloodthirsty these people are, as they have plans in place to wipe out the entire population of the United States. First, through false-flag attacks like Al-Qaeda, (Alexander Litvinenko, the fellow who was poisoned by the FSB with Polonium 210, alleged that Al-Qaeda’s number two guy was trained by the FSB), EMP strikes, followed up by nuclear attacks, biological and chemical attacks, all done suddenly, starting off with countries like Iran or North Korea taking the blame.

The International Communist movement is alive and well, and its agents have long been planted into our institutions for the sole purpose of weakening us from within so they can strike from the outside.


38 posted on 02/28/2013 8:26:16 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: jongaltsr
Honesty, I have never met a Russian that I liked completely. I work in IT, and there are enough Russians, but they don't get America. Maybe I don't get Russia.

They are still the evil I grew up with.

39 posted on 02/28/2013 8:30:59 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: X-spurt
Lets talk about the “general command” now.

The ones who have accepted gays in their ranks and won't allow chaplains to mention Jesus? Obama is commander in chief.

The ones who won't allow soldiers to fire on enemy combatants without their approval direct from the battlefield? Obama is commander in chief.

That general command? The one that answers to the commander in chief?

40 posted on 02/28/2013 8:31:56 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SeminoleCounty

You wouldn’t make such bigoted statements if you had ever visited Russia to see reality.


41 posted on 02/28/2013 8:32:38 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: KittenClaws

Clarification:

I am not talking about our wonderful Soldiers our fighting men.

I speak of the entrenched commanders. Those beholden to the admin.


42 posted on 02/28/2013 8:34:37 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Rembrandt
“Russia is making threats and threatened to overthrow our government.”

He's too late. oboma beat him to the punch. Had he said it before 2009, I would have been worried.

43 posted on 02/28/2013 8:35:00 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: KittenClaws

Come on down, we thrive on threats and threats of chaos. Go ask Santa Anna. We know how to be independent, we have the actual experience.


44 posted on 02/28/2013 8:35:24 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The Putin regime is hardly Slavophile. Putin has been aggressive and antagonistic to other Slavic nations. He threaten Poland with missile attacks and he said Ukraine was “not even a real country.” Russia's only Slavic ally is Belarus, and even they don't like each other very much. Russia pays lip service the Serbs, but remember, the Croats are Slavic too. Even Serbia wants to join the EU because Putin pulled Russia's troops out of Serbia and abandoned them to their fate.
45 posted on 02/28/2013 8:37:30 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: X-spurt

So your’e a Texan?

Guess how I know that. :-)


46 posted on 02/28/2013 8:37:39 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Perdogg; WomBom
One for each of us.


47 posted on 02/28/2013 8:39:41 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Rembrandt
I thought that was Obama’s job!

You got That right!

48 posted on 02/28/2013 8:40:29 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: jongaltsr

Sadly, it would be an upgrade from what we have now.


49 posted on 02/28/2013 8:43:21 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Accurate statements.

But not to be believed, because, well, we just can’t believe it. (Yes, that was sarcasm).


50 posted on 02/28/2013 8:51:27 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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