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Is Fox News Really That Different?
WND ^ | January 29, 2013 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 01/29/2013 8:43:34 PM PST by SeminoleCounty

For many Americans, Fox News is their “alternative” choice for news. They’ve made it the No. 1 cable news network, largely because they believe its “fair and balanced” promotional slogan? Many even believe Fox leans to the right and provides news they can’t get anywhere else. But is Fox really different from the rest of the media? Or has it been successful merely at positioning itself as different? Would it surprise you to know that individuals at News Corp., the parent company of Fox News, gave nearly six times as much money to Barack Obama than Mitt Romney in the 2011-2012 election cycle?

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: contributions; democrats; fox; foxnews; poilitical
Are we really surprised that this is what happens at Fox News? They are decidedly more pro-Illegal Alien than even liberal CNN. They mocked and ridiculed anything Obama Eligibility related. And, Bill O'Reilly just scored an interview with Bronco Bama.

This is not a Conservative network

1 posted on 01/29/2013 8:43:41 PM PST by SeminoleCounty
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To: SeminoleCounty

FNC sucks but so does WND.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 8:45:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeminoleCounty

You’ll find this study by George Mason University interesting. Although it is several years old it does have a good insight. While Fox isn’t Conservative, it does give the most down the middle coverage (in terms of time spent to each side).

http://web.archive.org/web/20060223092957/http://mason.gmu.edu/%7Eatabarro/MediaBias.doc


3 posted on 01/29/2013 8:48:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SeminoleCounty

Much ado about nothing.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 8:50:28 PM PST by Morris70
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To: mylife

So FNC is bad and WND points this out and they are bad as well? OK!


5 posted on 01/29/2013 8:52:47 PM PST by doc1019
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To: SeminoleCounty
This is not a Conservative network

There are a number of people that tend toward the liberal point of view, particularly during the day. But, there are some that tend toward the right also. So I guess they are closer to balanced than any of the other channels.
There is no conservative network. Even the conservative radio stations usually have one liberal on the staff.

6 posted on 01/29/2013 8:53:16 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Fox has never been conservative; they just didn’t hate America.

Besides, “fair and balanced” is really political correctness in practice.

Conservative would be “factual and true”.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 8:53:48 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: doc1019

IMHO WND is a conspiracy rag.


8 posted on 01/29/2013 8:55:24 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Local radio has FN at the top and half hour. Every darn day its Obama speaking or some Democrat with rarely a Conservative voice to counter. Is that fair and balanced, not to me.


9 posted on 01/29/2013 8:55:35 PM PST by RginTN
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To: SeminoleCounty
Yes Fox is different. It's 40% truth balanced with 60% outright lies.

Whereas the MSM is just outright lies.

10 posted on 01/29/2013 8:55:45 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Morris70; mnehring; SeminoleCounty

What Morris said. The reason people think Fox is a conservative channel when it isn’t is that it’s straight down the middle, so it seems like a con network compared to the rest of the big media universe.

And Farah is the Arnold Horseshack of conservative media.


11 posted on 01/29/2013 8:55:51 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (safeandlegal.com Make it viral.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

It was an alternative for a while. Anymore it is just more of the same. Be willing to bet they made the mistake of hiring some ex-CNN, ex-NBC, etc editors and producers. Then the new hires turned around and started bringing in their old buddies from leftist newsrooms. Whenever you hire a leftist to lead a newsroom they will only hire leftist writers and graduates from leftist colleges, known fact.


12 posted on 01/29/2013 8:58:14 PM PST by Axamari
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To: mylife

...crossed with paranormal tabloid. They still regularly report on dinosaur sightings.
http://mobile.wnd.com/markets/news/read/20119058/baby_dinosaur_spotted_in_hawaii

..and UFOs
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/see-most-dramatic-ufo-videos-ever/

..and Bigfoot
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/bigfoot-in-oregon-roaring-screeching-spooks-locals/?cat_orig=diversions


13 posted on 01/29/2013 8:59:43 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Agree that FNC lacks true Conservative creds., it’s a far cry better than it’s competition! Have you looked at CNN, MSNBC or Bloomberg recently? They are notthng more than a mouthpiece for Obama.
Until someone with HUGE bucks backs a cable channel this won’t change. That being said, I’d prefer to get my “NEWS” from FNC than ay of their competitors


14 posted on 01/29/2013 8:59:52 PM PST by Cookies4ever (6? That's like)
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To: mylife

WND is an excellent sight.

Why attack conservatives when there are so few? Leave something for our enemies to do.


15 posted on 01/29/2013 8:59:52 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: doc1019

So FNC is bad and WND points this out and they are bad as well? OK!


Seems the WND hate started when they busted GW Bush trying to push the North American Union nonsense. Of course, the report was true....but after that the NeoCons got wobbly over WND


16 posted on 01/29/2013 9:00:44 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: donna

What ever floats your boat.
My opinion is different.


17 posted on 01/29/2013 9:01:16 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mnehring

I know, I know.


18 posted on 01/29/2013 9:02:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeminoleCounty

If Fox could make more money by leaning left they would.

NewsCorp is about making money and I’ll bet Obama being president has brought them huge ratings so it wouldn’t really surprise me if they gave more to Obama campaign. That and if Obama won they wanted to have some access.


19 posted on 01/29/2013 9:03:34 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: donna

Why is WND attacking Fox?


20 posted on 01/29/2013 9:04:06 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mnehring

Interesting study. Though now I would say Special Report has moved a little more left...as the network has moved that way


21 posted on 01/29/2013 9:04:36 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: SeminoleCounty

The only real difference when Fox News started was they reported straight news without bias.

A house burns down and Fox reports “a house burned down” while the others would report “a house burned down that was owned by a black woman...residents wonder if the delay in the fire truck was because they are racist.”


22 posted on 01/29/2013 9:04:52 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: mylife

Why is WND attacking Fox?


Probably because Fox attacks WND over the Obama Eligibility stories...yet at the same time is still plagarizing WND stories...reports based on WND articles without any acknowledgement of the source


23 posted on 01/29/2013 9:08:16 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I think Fox started falling off the wagon when they started obsessing and giving wall to wall coverage over stories like Natalie Holloway. Yea, poor girl went missing and probably killed. Don’t need to hear about it 24/7. It started them down a path of hyper-analyzing every moment of ratings to see what drives the most viewers. Unfortunately it is tabloid, not deep politics.

Remember though in the equation that they did spin off Fox Business which is much more to the right. (yea they have libs but they are strong pro-capitalism).


24 posted on 01/29/2013 9:08:40 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SeminoleCounty

The problem with WND and eligibility stories is they ran with everything, no matter how off the wall or obviously fake with no attempt to determine if it was real. They were running those bogus ‘African Press International’ stories long after that source was debunked as being completely bogus.

http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/78259/

They kept falling over and over for the Lucas Smith stories long after he was revealed to be a con artist.

They lacked any discernment and probably did as much to harm the story as to help it. They don’t have a lot of room to criticize other news outlets.


25 posted on 01/29/2013 9:12:55 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mylife

“IMHO WND is a conspiracy rag.”
_________________________________________

Obumbo and the MSM IS the conspiracy.
While WND may irritate me with their internet teasers, I do
consider them to be on my side, unlike the MSM.
Corsi was among the first to point out Obama’s apparently
bogus birth story.


26 posted on 01/29/2013 9:13:44 PM PST by AlexW
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To: SeminoleCounty

I reiterate ... OK!

I have found WND to be more accurate than many other sources that ply the internet. However, they are not my only source (see my personal page), just one of the better ones.

I have given up on all TV news and feel especially sad at the move toward the middle by FNC.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 9:15:28 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019
I have given up on all TV news ....

If you have Direct TV, a little hidden 'treat'. Turn to channel 2119. It is Communist China's version of CNN- CCTV. Once you have a good discernment of their obvious bias, you will find there is a lot less editorializing there. Just know from what angle it comes. They have a lot of international stories that we don't see and they are more critical of O, especially on economic issues than most domestic sources. I was shocked the other day when they had a commentator say how the US is tanking because of unmanageable debt. You won't hear that from any of the CBS/NBS/ABS stations.

28 posted on 01/29/2013 9:20:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I have Direct, will check it out.


29 posted on 01/29/2013 9:24:07 PM PST by doc1019
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To: SeminoleCounty

Fox’s sincere problem is they are missing a network. Two networks actually.

Headline News. And CNBC.

They have Fox, which matches CNN. But they have nothing like Headline News. And nothing like CNBC.

Headline News is a significant portion of what makes CNN what it is. If Fox were to roll out a Fox Headline News, along with something with live stock quotes during the days.

They would perhaps be onto something.

They don’t have those things yet.

So they’re not the major player yet.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 9:26:31 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: mnehring

The problem with WND and eligibility stories is they ran with everything, no matter how off the wall or obviously fake with no attempt to determine if it was real. They were running those bogus ‘African Press International’ stories long after that source was debunked as being completely bogus.

http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/78259/

They kept falling over and over for the Lucas Smith stories long after he was revealed to be a con artist.

They lacked any discernment and probably did as much to harm the story as to help it. They don’t have a lot of room to criticize other news outlets.


Yes some of their Eligibility stories were kinda odd...but the main premise of theirs was, and still is, correct on that issue...Obama still cannot prove he is eligible

Although the worse eligibility stories were the ones that always tried to push Frank Marshall Davis as Obama’s father...when it was quite obvious after the “2016” film that George Obama and Barack Jr looked too much alike (Barack Sr was the father of both). Most of the “FM Davis is Obama father” stories were really just ruses to attack Birth Certificate/Eligibility people.


31 posted on 01/29/2013 9:26:54 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: doc1019

One thing that you’ll find interesting is that China is seriously rattling sabers with Japan over those disputed islands- to the point that almost every hour is a mention of WWII atrocities. It is like they are conditioning China for a war by framing the view of the enemy.


32 posted on 01/29/2013 9:27:47 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Have you ever read Sun Tzu’s Art of War? This whole Chinese strategy is right out of his book.


33 posted on 01/29/2013 9:46:13 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Fox Business Channel

Demand it!


34 posted on 01/29/2013 9:47:34 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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FNC is definitely different, and to say it’s not is disingenuous.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 12:44:42 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: doc1019

Unfortunately the only thing I remember from the book is not to fully enclose your enemy as doing so essentially provokes an unrivaled survival fight that would not otherwise exist if the enemy feels it can escape.


36 posted on 01/30/2013 12:48:58 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: SeminoleCounty

It doesn’t seem like an accident that they only hire pro amnesty people. Maybe it’s a directive from the top.


37 posted on 01/30/2013 1:57:17 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: SeminoleCounty

It WAS different in the 90’s. But after bringing on liberal after liberal, they’ve been infleunced to the prevailing liberal view. The constantly pushed and schilled for both McCain and Romney. So I stopped watching. There’s no piece of news they can tell me that I haven’t already seen online anyway. I could care less about their “brilliant” commentary.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 5:19:47 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: mnehring

bttt

Those drama-queen cynical opportunists EARNED their reputation for being “World Nut Daily”.

Fringer nutcase conspiracy-theorists are their target audience.


39 posted on 01/30/2013 5:47:34 AM PST by Matchett-PI (You know how to stop abortion? Require that each one occur with a gun -Rush Limbaugh)
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To: mylife
"Why is WND attacking Fox?"

For the same reason that other conspiracy-theory nutcases (like Alex Jones) attack Rush Limbaugh, FNC, and any other entity that refuses to take right-wing fringer extremists seriously.

40 posted on 01/30/2013 5:56:22 AM PST by Matchett-PI (You know how to stop abortion? Require that each one occur with a gun -Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Is Fox News Really That Different?

No.

41 posted on 01/30/2013 6:12:34 AM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: SeminoleCounty

-——This is not a Conservative network-——

No one ever made that claim. The point was to be “Fair and balanced” and to present a conservative view totally lacking in the MSM.

There is really no “Conservative View” . If you pay attention on Free Republic you know with absolute certainty that there is almost no agreement on anything. There are varying shades of homogenity but seldom black and white.

There can be no conservative network for the simple reason it would be an economic failure. There would not be enough viewers to make it viable.

Roger Ailes realized this fact and crafted a network that is fantastically successful. Fox is the closest to a conservative network news organization that will ever be.


42 posted on 01/30/2013 6:42:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: SeminoleCounty

The “talent” is left wing. It’s hip.

They will all be martyred if there is a violent revolution.


43 posted on 01/30/2013 6:44:56 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: SeminoleCounty

“Is Fox News Really That Different?”
******************
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Yeah, in addition to being LIKE the rest of msm, it excels in 0’pinheadism !!!!!

What commie could want more....o yeah, that won...

Semper Watching!
*****


44 posted on 01/30/2013 7:15:50 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: mylife

See, there is your problem. You express some unsupported emotion and call it an opinion.

WND did not attack Fox. Joseph Farah explained, with facts, that Fox is not different.


45 posted on 01/30/2013 8:34:47 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: SeminoleCounty
This is not a Conservative network

They never claimed to be anything other than fair and balanced. They still cover stories that would never appear in the other lamestream media, and the reporting (opinion programs aside) is much less slanted in either direction than the LSM.

46 posted on 01/30/2013 9:44:14 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Newsmax
Fox News Ratings Hit 12-year Low
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 09:49 PM

By: Matthew Auerbach

Fox News had its worst prime time ratings in January in the coveted 25-54 demographic since August 2001, a 12-year low, and its lowest total day ratings since June 2008, Politico reports.

The year started off badly for Fox’s “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” in particular, which suffered its worst month ever among the 25-54 demo. January also saw the channel’s lowest total viewership in the 10 p.m. hour since July 2008.

The numbers weren’t all bad. Fox still had nine out of the top 10 shows for the month. The only program to crack Fox’ total dominance was MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” which came in at the 10th spot.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/fox-news-ratings/2013/01/30/id/488190

I gave up on FOX News but I do watch:

Sportsman Channel and NRA Launch Outdoor TV Category’s First-Ever LIVE Daily Talk Show with NRANEWS Cam & Co.
01/11/2013

One-hour Weekday Strip Show Offers Intelligent Talk, News, Guests & Information for Nation’s More than 80 Million Hunting, Shooting and Fishing Enthusiasts. Radio personality Cam Edwards brings authority and appeal to TV

http://www.thesportsmanchannel.com/newsandevents/pressroom/news.php?ID=761

And:

The Blaze

http://www.theblaze.com/dish/


47 posted on 01/31/2013 7:14:59 AM PST by KeyLargo
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