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Attn: FReeper Shooters - Help me buy or build a tactical shotgun (Vanity)
January 27, 2013 | ConservativeInPA

Posted on 01/27/2013 7:05:07 PM PST by ConservativeInPA

I have been surfing the web looking at tactical shotguns. I really don't care for the term "tactical", but what I am looking for is certainly not a bird gun.

Here are my requirements:

1. Barrel Type: A breacher barrel. Does anyone have experience with a breacher choke tube? Do they work? How much to they extend the length of the gun?
2. Barrel Length: Shorter is better to me as maneuverability is important.
3. Stock/Overall gun length: What are the pro/cons of pistol grip, traditional stock and folding stock? I want something very sturdy, as a primary requirement is the ability to breach.
4. Action: Pump or Semi-Auto. I do not have much a preference as I own both types of shotguns. However, a semi-auto may have the ability to have detachable magazines like a Saiga. Or the possibility of a drum magazine for other semi-auto.
5. Detachable/Drum magazines: If the answer to #4 is semi-auto, is there an advantage to a detachable or drum magazine? How durable are they? Can you get them for 3-inch shot shells? Are they reliable?
6. Accessories: My general thoughts on this is pretty simple so far - maybe a mounted mag light of some sort and something for extra ammo. If there are any other ideas, let me know.
7. I may build/mod using an existing shotgun. This is a financial thing, in which I purchase today what may be banned parts in the future and later use to parts when I build on a completely legitimate/legal shotgun.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: 12ga; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; shotgun; tacticalshotgun
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Thanks in advance. I figure that this would be at least an interesting conversation and in the process it will narrow some of my research time.
1 posted on 01/27/2013 7:05:15 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

I recommend something in the Mossberg 500 line- you can dress them up to be tacticool with enough attachments that you cannot lift it, and at a fairly reasonable price. That being said, I like plain old wood- because if you have no ammo, you need a club.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 7:12:21 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

There are no 3” drums out there. 2.75” only.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 7:13:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Mossberg 590A1 pump 9 round (2 3/4 shells), add a Vortex Defense rail system, EOTech M6X-000-A2 M6X-G LED light/laser system, and any other stuff! You can drop the stock for an even shorter CQB use.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 7:14:16 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

MDARMS drums are tough as nails


5 posted on 01/27/2013 7:15:29 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Saiga 12.. I wish I had one.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 7:16:32 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Got me one of these Friday for less than $500.
I put a light on the rail, and call it my strobin' chainsaw.
7 posted on 01/27/2013 7:18:48 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: ConservativeInPA

MKA 1919


9 posted on 01/27/2013 7:21:08 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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enuf with the ‘tactical’ crap. every military wannabe uses this term including every police dept from east coast to west coast.


10 posted on 01/27/2013 7:22:26 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: ConservativeInPA
loose lips sink ships!
11 posted on 01/27/2013 7:24:39 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: ConservativeInPA

Start with this...

http://www.mossberg.com/node/2648


12 posted on 01/27/2013 7:26:54 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: sauropod

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13 posted on 01/27/2013 7:27:24 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: ConservativeInPA
If the primary requirement is to breach, I would go with a Mossberg 500 Cruiser. It is an 8 shot with a pistol grip and the breacher on the end. The overall gun is pretty short and ergo good for moving within structures/urban areas.

For about $50, you can later add a top folding stock to it if you wish. This will give you the versatility of a short shottie for breaches and Close Quarters Battle, but you can fold out the stock for situations with greater stand off..

I have the Mossberg 500 Rolling Thunder; I had the basic 500 without the breacher on the end, but I lost it in the divorce (yes, I know that's pretty redneck when your divorce settlement hinges on a shotgun and hogs, but it did).

They've got a pretty one with the Blackwater logo for $425

I don't have any experience with the Saiga 12 etc, but I have heard that they sometimes have feeding issues; my ex-BIL did with his and this is a common theme I have heard.

And a Mossy can be had for about 1/2 what a Saiga can.....probably even less than 1/2 after the prices skyrocketed.

Another benefit is the recoil isn't overly noticeable with the 500 and 2 3/4" shells. My buddies and I skeet shoot with them and compete against each other. One of our coworker's ex-wife is about 95 lbs with a brick in her pocket and had no problem blasting clay birds with it.

14 posted on 01/27/2013 7:30:00 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: GenXteacher
I like plain old wood- because if you have no ammo, you need a club.

I like plain old wood because if you ever do have to use the gun, it looks more like grampa's shotgun to a jury, and less like something that would cause Chuck Schumer to sh!t himself.

15 posted on 01/27/2013 7:32:29 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Saiga 12 or Vepr 12 - Either one will work.


16 posted on 01/27/2013 7:35:17 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: SVTCobra03
MKA 1919

Pretty slick. I just checked out a video from the 2012 SHOT show. It doesn't look like a breach gun though. I have AR's. I have semi-auto shot guns. I am looking for something a little more up close and personal ... like breaking down my daughters bedroom door after she and her boyfriend lock the door and having enough left over to put the boy down (just an example, he won't make it up the stairs).

17 posted on 01/27/2013 7:35:51 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: GenXteacher
I recommend something in the Mossberg 500 lineI've been looking at them. They are at the top of the list. Anyone want to talk me out of it?
18 posted on 01/27/2013 7:37:58 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: paratrooper82
loose lips sink ships!

It really is amazing how many here don't get that.

It's even warned against before you post, mercy.....

19 posted on 01/27/2013 7:38:19 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: mylife

That is what I have noticed. The most difficult part of doing a build like this is not knowing what you don’t know, e.g., like there is a 3” drum out there and you haven’t found it yet.


20 posted on 01/27/2013 7:40:16 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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