Posted on 01/27/2013 12:05:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
There has been a Utopia, Ohio, and there still exists a Utopia, Texas. In a country with a long history of creating idealistic communities, America may soon see another added into the mix — a city rooted in America’s past, or at least Glenn Beck’s version of it.
Mr. Beck, the outspoken conservative U.S. media personality and commentator, this month outlined his proposition to create a self-sustaining city and theme park hybrid. Independence, USA represents a harkening back to a time of a simpler America and would be built on values he sees the country as now “going away from” — freedom, truth and responsibility,
“It is the rebirth of our nation through its own principles,” Mr. Beck said on his syndicated Glenn Beck program. “You can come here and we will show you the truth of the ideas and the ideals that created this country.”
His proposed $2-billion city would be based on a free-market, limited government model. No location has been pegged down, but Mr. Beck has visited “three possible sites in three different states” and has spoken to two governors, said Mr. Beck’s TheBlaze TV website.
The self-sustaining city would include a ranch for food production, a media centre, a multi-denominational mission centre, a theme park, a research and development centre, a library, parks and baseball diamonds. It would have a communal marketplace that would serve as a public space for conducting small business and sharing ideas. Americans could either live in the city’s residential area or just come to visit.
The concept was partly inspired by Galt’s Gultch, the utopian community in Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, and by past initiatives proposed by Walt Disney...
(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalpost.com ...
“After you understand that, then you have to come up with a way to undo it all without a full scale revolution, because the Progressives are counting on chaos to finalize their control of the country.”
Theoretically, in order to reverse the damage done, we would need to reverse the progressive legal agenda for the last century, and that means getting rid of the progressive income tax, federal reserve, reversing changes to divorce laws, overturning Roe vs. Wade, getting rid of the Dept of Education, etc. This is probably not going to happen. I’ll keep voting for anyone who might try to accomplish that, and I’ll keep publicly advocating those measures, but I don’t have any real expectation that they will ever get implemented short of a great upheaval in society.
We’re on the downward arc of our civilization, and civilizations hardly ever experience the kind of renewal that can “short circuit” that natural progression. If we want to stop the decline, creating such a revival movement in the spirits of Americans is the only hope. I don’t know how that might happen exactly, but creating a preserve, a little historical reenactment village for traditional Americanism, is not going to do it.
I started listening to Beck regularly on the radio when Tony Snow took the WH position in 2006ish; became an Insider etc.
He was outstanding in providing information and a unique perspective - at least to me. I thought he did outstanding work at CNN headline news.
It was his relentless savaging of Gingrich concurrent with his ignoring of Romney during the campaign that turned me around on him.
That and the fact that he is no longer providing anything new in terms of information.
I also have a theory that he had excellent sources (financial and political) feeding him info between 2006 and 2011-2012ish.........
The problem with that idea is that it’s impossible from a legal standpoint. Thank Lincoln and his absolute Federal supremacy for that. You just can’t create a little town, anywhere in the US, that would have the kind of laws that would show how liberty works. You’d still be subject to your Federal masters, no matter how free the local laws are.
It's getting hard to listen to.
The best outcome is a new union or alliance of Conservative areas around the nation. We have talked about state succession, but haven't talked much about breakaway areas within states that might be necessary in many instances.
www.OathKeepers.org
How about Independence, USA as part of a that revival? Beck has ADHD so he can do more than one thing at a time.
Never work because limited government means no kick back to the senate and congress critters,and lobbyists would be out of a job.
We’ve socially shifted gears to surround ourselves with like minded people. Daughter is in American Heritage Girls, not Girl Scouts. Private Christian school. Play dates are with friends from Boy Scouts, American Heritage Girls and church, not neighbors.
Instead of isolation, it’s a social shift to create a community that agrees with us. I can’t save everyone else, but I can try to give my kids a community in which they belong.
Exactly. Those who want to live in a cocoon with only those who they "think" are like-minded, are in denial, and will continue to have to be mugged by reality. Sad, really.
I think maybe this is what Glenn had in mind with his ideas of a real life 'Galt's Gulch'. The reality of big government and a large dependent organization, probably forced him towards the theme park substitute. The world is at the end of an age, IMO. I'm not sure what lies beyond this one when it gasps its last, but things will be much different; hopefully much better with freedom for all who inhabit this world.
Maybe utopia will become reality for the next 1,000 years after a period of horrible tribulation. The tribulation is what we need to focus on getting through first. I'm not sure what to do, except get your butt out or the Middle East (including Israel), NYC, or DC! Maybe other US metropolitan areas as well.
I have seriously considered and researched moving to another country, deeper into this one, or even going to sea. Not sure what God's will is, but I am trying to figure it out and listen. Personally, unless God wants his remnant spreading into other parts of the world, putting up a fight here, better appeals to me.
Common sense dictates that like minded folks need to congregate somewhere for protection and pooling of resources, or to honor the command to “come out from among yea"; it does look like we're destine for a worldwide turmoil that's never been seen before. How else can you explain someone like BO becoming president of this land.
Many, I'm certain, will receive the same protection God place around Daniel while in the furnace. It's written to go inside and close the door during this period. So it might be wise to be prepared in the event that stores are close for an extended period.
Just a few rambling thoughts I've had; if y'all figure out what to do, please let me know... :)
We are starting to hear from them...
Here's one on the Second Amendment.
Here's another on what a President SHOULD sound like.
Watching BOTH videos takes less than half an hour and both WILL inspire you.
Hey, if he wants to dump his money into, that’s his prerogative. I just don’t see what good it will do.
“BUT I want nothing to do with Pay Pal,”
This is kind of ironic. Are you aware that that founder of Paypal, Peter Theil, is an Ayn Rand devotee and has been promoting this ‘Beck’ idea before Beck ?
Thiel wants to create floating cities away from the reach of any government. Peter Thiel has also given grants to young people to forego college and use the money to become an entrepreneur instead.
This is a great link with futuristic drawings of the ‘floating freedom cities.”
Other than the blasphemy, heresy and apostasy of Mormonism that is leading people to Hell, I see nothing wrong with Mormonism. And don't forget the great Mormon pioneers at the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
Enjoyed your sharing “Just a few rambling thoughts “ THANK YOU!
It's hard for many to admit the depressing truth of the situation we are now in. It's not always an easy, or fast transition from accepting our bleak future to finding something that's worth fighting for in that same future. I know this based on personal experience. I looked for false hope until I couldn't lie to myself any longer, and then I just completely gave up and avoided all news as best as I could. After a few wasted months I realized that I couldn't continue down that path. After that I could find hope and motivation in a future that had been so depressing not long before that it had incapacitated me.
I know a lot of people already envisioned much of what we're now facing long before I ever did. Many just made the transition much better than I did, but some are never even going to make it that far. It's important for people to stop looking for false hope, but still be able to find some hope in a bleak reality. The difference between the two is enormous, and understandably not an easy transition. I know there aren't any perfect solutions to most of the issues we are facing. We just have to work together on finding the best answers we can for now.
www.OathKeepers.org
I’m saying I don’t trust the guy. He has some bizrre agenda going on.
We have Roku
Ironic or not, Pay Pal doesn’t serve my needs, and so I do not use Pay Pal. Thanks for the links..I’ll check them out.
Time will tell.
My point is that Rush was quite clever in trying this approach, in his attempt to attract the low-informed, sport and Hollywood crowd, in any way possible. And it seems to be working. When Rush has good ideas, he HAS good ideas.
I will continue to listen to Glenn Beck..as well as Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity any other conservative commentators that I have heard and liked. Like us all, they, too, have good and bad days. They do need our support and we should not abandon them.
You were the one who got mad.
See Cobra’s response if you want to be all po’d.
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