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Negative narrative about Penn State starting to change, Franco Harris says
The Morning Call ^ | 1-26-13 | Mark Wogenrich

Posted on 01/26/2013 9:52:14 PM PST by FlJoePa

Franco Harris doesn't believe the NCAA sanctions against Penn State will stand, nor is he convinced that the trials of former Penn State officials will occur. Further, the former Penn State running back said, he sees opinions shifting about his alma mater's role in the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

"The narrative is starting to change," Harris said Friday. "The [grand jury] presentment and the Freeh Report are falling apart. The NCAA [sanctions], that will fall apart. There will be no trials for [Tim] Curley and [Gary] Schultz. There's no case. We're starting to find the truth."

More than 200 turned out Friday in King of Prussia for an event Harris hosted and funded, presenting a defense of Penn State and late football coach Joe Paterno. "Upon Further Review: Penn State One Year Later" offered a critical look at the Sandusky investigation, former FBI Director Louis Freeh's findings and the media's coverage of the entire scandal.

It was the second of three such sessions, and Harris said he hopes to schedule more in the future. The first was held last December in Pittsburgh. Another is scheduled for Saturday night near Washington, D.C.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


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Franco doesn't seem to be giving up. This event was yesterday in King of Prussia in a snow storm. Every seat was still filled.

"The Joe We Know" film was presented in Baltimore tonight to 500 invitees along with 70 Letterman - including Franco, Lydell Mitchell and Lenny Moore. Tomorrow there is another 3 hour Franco/John Ziegler/Ray Blehar event in D.C.

The narrative actually is shifting. Go to John Ziegler's site - framingpaterno.com if you want the truth. Just like with our Sarah, John cuts through the media bias, lies, and incompetence and serves up the truth.

I don't trust the PSU b.o.t., I don't trust the PA AG's office, I don't trust the sitting Governor, I don't trust louis freeh, I don't trust the ncaa, I certainly don't trust the media (espn especially). If Joe were alive I would trust him though. You stand w/ louis freeh, I'll stand w/ Joe. I know who's honorable.

1 posted on 01/26/2013 9:52:21 PM PST by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

And yet Sandusky was given unrestricted access to young flesh.


2 posted on 01/26/2013 10:00:25 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

Yup - by the second mile and all the state and local agencies that allowed this to take place. Not Penn State and Not Joe Paterno. Go to Ziegler’s site and learn the truth.


3 posted on 01/26/2013 10:07:12 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Pedophilia State U. is trying to change its image? Why? Senior PSU officials (including Paterno) were happy enough to know what Sandusky was doing and not report him to the police. They knew and they let it go on for many years to avoid a scandal and protect the prgram. The thing that really bothers me about this affair is that the SMU football program got the death penalty because boosters got caught paying players but the PSU football program did not get the death penalty for this. Apparently the NCAA feels that having boosters pay players is worse than having senior university officials complicit in molesting little boys. Talk about skewed priorities.


4 posted on 01/26/2013 10:29:32 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: FlJoePa

Any school on probation should not have televised games or participate in BCS bowls.


5 posted on 01/26/2013 10:29:50 PM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: jospehm20

Image? What are you talking about? What is your attention span? Read the links or don’t comment on them. You obviously know very little, yet your mouth runs so large.


6 posted on 01/26/2013 10:44:02 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I do know that Mike McQueary testified to a Grand Jury that he told Paterno in 2002 that he personally witnessed Sandusky having anal sex with a young boy in the shower at the Lasch Football Building at Penn State. I know Paterno did not immediately report it to police as any normal person would and he was aware that Sandusky was never arrested for it. I assume he acted the way he did to avoid a scandal. I also know that making a film called “The Framing of Joe Paterno” after knowing what McQueary testified to is laughable. You can believe what you want but I believe that Paterno was a pervert enabler. So were the PSU AD, the head of campus police and the University President. As for the link, I did read it. It is a bunch of PSU alumni and supporters saying PSU officials were framed. I don’t buy that, in fact I think PSU got off too easy considering what happened.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 11:38:29 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20; FlJoePa; WPaCon
jospehm20:

Joe Paterno as a pervert enabler???? I seriously doubt it. He is the now dead scapegoat used by the pervert American community and the perverts running Penn State to trash him (as the only nationally known celebrity at Penn State) and take the focus off the despicable Penn State president Graham Spanier whose doctoral thesis was on wife swapping and who arrived at Penn State vowing to make it the most "gay friendly" campus in the US. He certainly saw to it that it had the most "gay friendly" president and likely the most "gay friendly" board of trustees as well.

Let's look at the man you claim as a source---the aptly named Michael McQueary. If McQueary "personally witnessed Sandusky having anal sex with a young boy in the shower," etc., and McQueary was a "normal person" what did McQueary do? Did he walk into the shower and separate Sandusky from the young boy? No. Did he shout out to Sandusky to leave the kid alone or to the kid to flee the shower room? No. Did McQueary then and there cold cock Sandusky who was about old enough to be his grandfather? No. Did McQueary even call the cops on Sandusky promptly so that Sandusky could be arrested that night? No. McQueary told his own father a couple of days later and then went to Joe Paterno (not the state police, not the Bellefont police, not the Center County Sheriff, not the Center County prosecutor, with his story or so he says. Assuming that he did, he lacked the stature to be automatically believed.

Joe Paterno followed the campus rules and reported to HIS superiors who then killed the investigation (to protect the guilty??? and not just Sandusky). Several of the higher ups have been indicted now belatedly and are facing trials. If found guilty, may they rot in prison as long as pervert Sandusky. Next, investigate Second Mile Foundation and its apparent role in pimping fatherless prepubescent boys to Sandusky (and to anyone else??? America wants to know).

Were boys provided to politicians? See a very interesting book called the Franklin County Coverup written by a former Nebraska State Senator who investigated even worse behavior in Omaha, involving judges, FBI agents, bankers, local police, and political figures using boys from a juvenile detention center and making them murder one another when the molesters were done with them.

About ten years ago, the elected Centre County prosecutor was investigating Sandusky. He stayed late in his office on a Friday night, was observed leaving his office with his laptop and getting in his own car. He was never seen again. The laptop, its hard drive utterly destroyed was found in a river bed not to far from Bellefont. No one seems overly interested in that cold case. Why not? When I practiced criminal defense law in Connecticut, if a prosecutor disappeared under such circumstances, the state and local police would not have rested from the moment of disappearance, the body would have been recovered and the perps brought to justice. That would be the same in almost any jurisdiction in the country.

The fact is that this entire case stinks to high heaven and the stink does not arise from Joe Paterno or from his grave. The current governor used to be state attorney general and this stuff occurred on his watch. Spanier makes the late Tiny Tim look like He-Man or GI Joe. He is still apparently a tenured sociology professor at PSU although he has also been hired by Obozo for some God-forsaken (as usual) reason. Spanier, before arriving at PSU disciplined University of Nebraska football players for the incredible crime of actually praying in a group before a football game. OTOH, Spanier apparently fully participated in telling his subordinates to cover up for Sandusky.

BTW, I am not more than an occasional fan of college football although I rooted for University of Alabama to administer punishment to the heathen Obozo worshiping University of Notre Shame. I do respect Joe Paterno's legacy of excellence in amateur sport and I resent that he is being used after his death by the perps of this disgrace to deflect attention from their misdeeds especially when he is not available to defend himself.

Like most civilized folks, I have absolutely no use for Sandusky or anyone like him. Put him in a maximum security prison and keep him in the general population and the inmates will relieve the taxpayers of the burden of Sandusky's room and board as Wisconsin prisoners did with the late Jeffrey Dahlmer. Did I mention that McQueary is some sort of subordinate football coach at PSU???

8 posted on 01/27/2013 12:47:14 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: BlackElk

the case of Ray Gricar (sp?) is certainly a strange one....


9 posted on 01/27/2013 12:53:09 AM PST by cherry
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To: jospehm20

Oh, and lest I forget: PSU has its own sworn police department. State Police, County Sheriffs, local police, all defer to the campus cops on matters occurring on campus. This is “professional courtesy” and not a legal requirement. It helps such campuses to cover up crimes on campus lest the school be embarrassed. Civilian university authorities have authority to interfere with the campus police. The campus authorities are NOT sworn officers. This business of campus police forces is necessarily a corrupt and very bad idea because of the fact that campus cops are not truly independent of CYA oriented campus authorities who often care less about law enforcement but very much about their own jobs.


10 posted on 01/27/2013 12:54:15 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: cherry

Correct spelling of the missing prosecutor’s name. It certainly is strange, as you say.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 1:28:42 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: BlackElk

McQueary testified to what he saw in 2010, while Paterno was still alive. I agree with you that McQueary acted reprehensibly. He should have stopped the act and notified police immediately but once he told Paterno what happened, I think Paterno should have notified police. If Paterno did not notify law enforcement than he was enabling Sandusky unless one believes that McQueary lied under oath about notifying Paterno.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 1:48:20 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: FlJoePa

It’s Ped State. It’ll always be Pes State, the stain will not go away. Little boys were sacrificed to the god of football, Paterno knew and it still went on.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 2:34:03 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: BlackElk
Joe Paterno followed the campus rules and reported to HIS superiors who then killed the investigation (to protect the guilty??? and not just Sandusky). Several of the higher ups have been indicted now belatedly and are facing trials. If found guilty, may they rot in prison as long as pervert Sandusky. Next, investigate Second Mile Foundation and its apparent role in pimping fatherless prepubescent boys to Sandusky (and to anyone else??? America wants to know

Are you crazy....if you believe this is what happened and Jopa was so great why didn't he go public right then, threaten to resign if some thing wasn't done and end the abuse of those kids. JOPA was more interested in his legacy than anything else.

14 posted on 01/27/2013 3:10:17 AM PST by ontap
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To: BlackElk

Michael McQueary was a product of the Paterno Way.


15 posted on 01/27/2013 5:10:33 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: FlJoePa
Glory be to God that people are starting to see what a sham this whole event was. God Bless Joe Pa, Penn State and all Pennsylvanians! God is Good!!!!!
16 posted on 01/27/2013 5:22:25 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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“If Paterno did not notify law enforcement than he was enabling Sandusky unless one believes that McQueary lied under oath about notifying Paterno.”

Not only did Joe Paterno not notify law enforcement...he squashed the Action Plan that Curley/Spanier came up with, after the 2nd known incident (McCleary reporting).

Paterno used his influence to squash the Action Plan, which was the first attempt to notify local authority.


17 posted on 01/27/2013 5:28:49 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: FlJoePa

I admire Franco Harris for his continued support of Joe Paterno and Penn State.

And, he is correct....the media-spun narrative is falling apart. Note that the media has really backed off the PSU story.

With the latest on the NCAA breaking its own rules and by-laws in their investigation of Miami, the whole view of their doings against Penn State are coming to a new light. Probably what Franco was alluding to....I am sure he is familiar with the Miami case

And, ESPN sat on the Bernie Fine Pedophilia case at Syracuse for nearly a decade....because many working at ESPN are Syracuse grads (many in the media are Syracuse grads). Their PSU reports are slanted....heck Penn St and Paterno owned them in football for years...


18 posted on 01/27/2013 6:03:15 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Old Sarge

That was provided through his own charity wasn’t it?


19 posted on 01/27/2013 6:08:47 AM PST by vladimir998
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....much of it on the Penn St campus and with knowledge by Paterno, Curley, Spanier.

That mini “video” is a pathetic display of former PSU sycophants of Paterno, unable to come to terms with what he did.

There is no evidence on it and they even use the Sandusky defense attorney as a major contributor.


20 posted on 01/27/2013 6:34:35 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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