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BEER Ver. 2.0
ME ^ | 11/12/12 | Rebelbase

Posted on 11/12/2012 6:21:20 PM PST by Rebelbase

***Vanity***

For Beer folks especially.

Legitimate Question: What the heck is up with Hops overkill in micro brews these days? What happened to a good old lagers that tasted like a fresh loaf of honey wheat bread?


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To: Rebelbase

I was saying exactly this to Mrs L this evening. Anyone can load hops into beer. While I like hops as much as anyone else I’m getting more than a bit tired of being slapped in the face with them.

Give me a nice smoky finish without all those hops and I’m a happy man.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 8:50:03 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Rembrandt

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22 posted on 11/13/2012 2:41:40 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; hemogoblin; ..

Ping to the Homebrewers List


23 posted on 11/13/2012 2:44:52 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; hemogoblin; ..

Ping to the Homebrewers List


24 posted on 11/13/2012 2:45:16 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All

Somebody had recommended something for clarifying beer before you bottle it recently.

Was it pectin? Something like that. Gelatin?

I don’t recall. The apples are in! Getting ready for a cider run... would like it to be PERFECT!

(Totally dry, still with a cider presence, crystal clear, ABV 6-8%)


25 posted on 11/13/2012 3:43:40 AM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf

There are a few ways to clarify. The first thing I would suggest is a hard cold crash.

After fermentation is complete, cool the brew down hard. Under 50 degrees if possible and let it sit a few days. Most of the solids will drop out of solution. That will get you 90% there.

If you are still not happy with the clarity, mix up a cup of gelatin. I use 1 tsp per 1 cups of boiled water. Let it cool a little and either layer it onto the surface of the brew or as my buddy does, just pour it in. The gravity of the gelatin is much higher than the brew and it will drag nearly all the solids with it to the bottom. Toss the first pint or two during transfer, you don’t want to drink those.

Alternatively, you can use some stuff called Isenglas. It does much the same thing as the gelatin does but is more expensive and since it is made from the shells of shrimp (seriously) it can trigger an allergic reaction in those who have allergies to shellfish.

I use gelatin.

Let me know if these ideas work for you.

Cheers,

knewshound


26 posted on 11/13/2012 7:08:56 AM PST by knews_hound (Reading without commenting since 2001.)
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To: djf

There are a few ways to clarify. The first thing I would suggest is a hard cold crash.

After fermentation is complete, cool the brew down hard. Under 50 degrees if possible and let it sit a few days. Most of the solids will drop out of solution. That will get you 90% there.

If you are still not happy with the clarity, mix up a cup of gelatin. I use 1 tsp per 1 cups of boiled water. Let it cool a little and either layer it onto the surface of the brew or as my buddy does, just pour it in. The gravity of the gelatin is much higher than the brew and it will drag nearly all the solids with it to the bottom. Toss the first pint or two during transfer, you don’t want to drink those.

Alternatively, you can use some stuff called Isenglas. It does much the same thing as the gelatin does but is more expensive and since it is made from the shells of shrimp (seriously) it can trigger an allergic reaction in those who have allergies to shellfish.

I use gelatin.

Let me know if these ideas work for you.

Cheers,

knewshound


27 posted on 11/13/2012 7:08:59 AM PST by knews_hound (Reading without commenting since 2001.)
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To: djf

I use Irish Moss in the last 15 min of my wort boil. Dunno how you make cider, so I don’t know if it would work.

On the topic of the article, yes, I think most craft brews are overhopped. People forget that a great beer is a balance of hoppiness and maltiness.

My beers tend to have a lot of body with a moderate amount of hoppiness. And I use a variety of hops, so you don’t get overwhelmed by one hop characteristic.


28 posted on 11/13/2012 7:32:22 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Rebelbase

I enjoy the hops overkill, as you call it. I don’t like sweet beers. If I want something sweet, I’ll drink a coke.


29 posted on 11/13/2012 9:16:54 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: djf

There are a number of products available to clarify your beers or ciders. Knews_hound mentioned two. I have used Isinglass in my secondary and it seems to do fine. Others are used in the boil phase of brewing up a beer(Irish Moss and whirlfloc tablets are two I have used) and would not help in a cider. I have also used gelatin finings in my beers and in my ciders. I think using a yeast that is highly flocculant & has relatively full attenuation properties is a big help in producing clear brews and ciders. One dry yeast I have used in my ciders is Nottingham ale yeast. Cold crashing and the all important ingredient TIME are great clarifying agents.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 12:14:11 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Rebelbase

Pale Ales and IPAs have become very popular, they tend to be hoppy. But there’s still lagers, just gotta know what you’re looking for.


31 posted on 11/13/2012 12:19:06 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: Rebelbase

LONG LIVE HOPS! IPAs rule!

hehehehehe.... sorry, RB, but for me, this is the golden age of beer.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 1:08:41 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Rebelbase

Have you been to the Aviator Brewery in Fuquay Varina? They serve beer on site...ALL of their beers. They have a stout variation that is aged in whiskey barrels. Nice and smooth.

I give them kudos for not reusing their mash...too many micro brewery’s do.


33 posted on 11/13/2012 1:15:07 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

“the golden age of beer.”

I’m happy for you!


34 posted on 11/13/2012 2:46:38 PM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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